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David Wright will continue to hit third

David Wright had two hits Friday night against the Phillies in Citizen’s Bank Park.

He entered the game batting .158 in his last 49 plate appearances.

Nevertheless, Terry Collins told reporters he will continue to hit Wright third in the batting order, despite giving thought to other spots for him in the lineup.

“I don’t want to show any panic,” Collins said. “I know he’s going to bounce out of it.”

Wright has the most home runs of any visiting player at Citizen’s Bank Park.




70 comments
kingman76
kingman76

He's always been a better 5th place hitter.  The Mets have never been a winning team with him in the 3 hole.

Andy
Andy

I get it that Wright hasn't been a three hitter this year, but anyone that says they should get rid of him needs to stop. He's having his first real bad season of his career.

ofdzca7
ofdzca7

How about giving the guy a day off here and there? 

bklynlou
bklynlou

Wright will have a breakout night against hamel an the  stinky  phillies . Hopefully gee has a good game Howard.  Owns him he need a real good outing.an we  can win this one hamlets do for a bad game

bklynlou
bklynlou

Bat him 10th an he can play left out  how about that

metfaninva
metfaninva

Bat the pitcher 3rd-  from the Terry Collins School of Innovative and Ineffectual Thought.

hashburry
hashburry

Does TC have any idea what he is actually saying when he opens his mouth?  I don't dislike the guy-he reminds me of a dottering old grandpa-but every move he makes reeks of panic.

Paul LeBarron
Paul LeBarron

OK Mrs Wright you NEED TO START hitting. WE have now added some offense at SS and LF moves that should have been made a month ago.So lets just start hitting and see where it goes.

darkknight
darkknight

These are the worst lineups I've ever seen. Flores 3rd??? The guy has done nothing. He's not even a great prospect he's a really good one. He deserves to play and bat 7-8 maybe 6 since our lineup is so bad. If you take wright out of batting 3rd the one and only replacement is Murphy. And that is a terrible decision, he's literally our only guy that gets on base.

Mike Herrington
Mike Herrington

There is plenty of evidence that proves having people on base will make batters hit better. Better pitches, pitchers busy with runners on base and forced to throw strikes. Having speed can distract a pitcher even more.

The Mets do lack speed to distract on the top of the lineup. Mets could use a lead off batter not only with on base ability but speed. Murphy is a fine 2nd batter, not the issue but someone better than Granderson is.

Not that this is the complete solution to Wright or the whole Mets offensive but it sure would help.

Doubleday
Doubleday

Granderson

Murphy

Flores

Duda

DW

TDA

Lagares

MDD

Pitcher

... Play ball.

Nicholas Vargas
Nicholas Vargas

Matt. Lagares. Matt

Flores. Murphy. Lagares

Murphy. Flores. Murphy

Travis. Duda. Flores

Duda. Travis. Duda

Wright. Curtis Travis

Curtis. Wright. Curtis

Lagares. Matt. Wright

Nicholas Vargas
Nicholas Vargas

I'd like to see Terry reshuffle the line up. Flores shows signs of being very successful with runners in scoring position. Duda and Travis have great pop and with the speed of Juan and DenDekker, that should be a formidable 1-2 punch on top of that lineup. Curtis and Wright are professionals, moving them down the lineup should not effect mentally. They know team success comes first. But I understand where Terry is coming from, he feels safe with those two in the top half of the order.

MetsKnicks
MetsKnicks

Wright is garbage. Probably one of the most overrated players of all time. Not even stuffing stats like he usually does this year. Terrible contract.

1harris1
1harris1

The obvious problem is that there aren't any other clear candidates to bat 3rd on this team. Murphy has repeatedly said he doesn't feel comfortable in that spot. Who else would you bat there? Granderson strikes out way too much; and nobody else in the lineup is really proven.

Bottom line is that they need a productive DW to have any shot of real success.

Dennis Oilman
Dennis Oilman

David Wright hasn't been the same player since he was beaned by Matt Cain.

chavez06
chavez06

Why? Because he's David Wright and has "earned it"?  The level of entitlement that players feel or that we fans and management feel the players are owed is ridiculous.  There is no other industry like it.  Respecting great payers doesn't have to involve feeding their egos.  This is my every day line-up ...


DenDekker (rf) -L

Lagares (cf) - R

Murph (2b) - L

Granderson (lf) - L

Wright (3b) - R

Duda (1b) - L

d'Arnaud (c) - R

Flores (ss) - R

vandelay
vandelay

@kingman76 Not true.  Most of his best seasons were hitting 3rd.  And he hit 3rd in 2008 which was the Mets last season with a winning record.  Besides, who is in the lineup is much more important than the order they are in.  Flipping the 3rd hitter and the 5th hitter in a lineup isn't going to turn a bad team into a good one.

hashburry
hashburry

@Paul LeBarron that's clever.  Your wrote "Mrs. Wright" as a way to denigrate DWs struggles by comparing him to a woman.  Well done.  Time well spent.

Doubleday
Doubleday

Flores knocked in 145 runs in 162 AAA games batting 3rd. Hard to ignore (unless you are Terry Collins)

matmil
matmil

Agreed more speed more hitting less strikeouts. Make the other team field the ball. You'll be surprised what happens.

Sal
Sal

@Nicholas Vargas Collins is clueless with the lineup card.


I know moving a guy like Wright from the 3 spot is always hard to do for any manager, but I don't think keeping him there is doing Wright any favors. He might need the mental shakeup of moving to another spot in the order for his own good.  


Greater players than Wright have gone through such changes.  I don't doubt he would handle it as a professiona, and I think it could help him and the team.

matmil
matmil

I think the reason Murph doesn't feel right about hitting third is he doesn't want to step on David's toes. Wright is the Captain and should do what's best for the team.

vandelay
vandelay

@1harris1 I wouldn't be against changing the lineup a bit - just to shake things up,  Maybe just moving some guys around and giving things a different look can help get Wright and others going.  But yeah, there isn't really any kind of solution right now with the players here that would actually make the lineup significantly better.


As you said Murph does not like hitting 3rd...but even if they do move him there and he's ok with it...there aren't a whole lot of great options to hit 2nd.  Maybe moving Wright to 2nd would be worth trying at this point...but if people are more on the "drop him down" in the lineup idea - I don't think there are many great options for the top of the lineup.  Lagares has been a sub-.300 OBP thus far in the majors- not typically the kind of guy you stick at the top of the lineup.  Flores hasn't shown anything yet and doesn't profile as a  2 hitter anyway.  If you go with speed at the top of the lineup and put MDD or Kirk up there then (unless you also bump Duda down..which would be silly given how great he's been) you are playing right into the opposing managers hand for the later innings with 4 LHH in a row at the top of the lineup.  Maybe TDA could be moved  up...but save for the HR last night he's been quite awful over the last few weeks too


And really Wright just needs to hit...position in the lineup is vastly overstated.  Whether he's hitting 3rd, 5th, or wherever the Mets need Wright to get back to being the great hitter he was the previous couple years 

Doubleday
Doubleday

Flores. If Soup can bat cleanup, Wilmer can certainly bat third.

hankincolo
hankincolo

@Dennis Oilman Sad but true, get two strikes on David, back him off the plate a little and then here comes the strike out on a curve or slider, low and away. The league is well aware. My guess and I haven't checked it yet, is he's a top hitter with less than two strikes, but after that it goes downhill.   

vandelay
vandelay

@chavez06 That lineup is awful.  Duda has been the most productive hitter and you are dropping him to 6th??  Lagares is one of the worst hitters on the team - particularly OBP wise and you want him to hit 2nd? 

Sal
Sal

@chavez06


den Dekker/Kirk

Murphy

d'Arnaud

Duda

Wright

Granderson

Flores

Lagares



1harris1
1harris1

Murphy doesn't like hitting third though. To me, it's dumb to mess around with Murph's head, given how productive he's been. Let him stay within his comfort zone.

matmil
matmil

Like it. Worth a try.

WoodsideNative
WoodsideNative

@vandelay @kingman76 Maybe not but we won't get as many double plays after a Murphy hit. I'd give him until the end of the Philly series. If he ain't out of by then, drop him. 

matmil
matmil

Yes I don't see why Wright can't accept reality. His tools have diminished.

Nicholas Vargas
Nicholas Vargas

Terry has to show panic, this is crunch time and whole team knew it once they lost 2 out of 3 against the nationals.

vandelay
vandelay

@matmil I doubt that is it.  Given most of Murph's struggles in the 3rd spot were when Wright was hurt...I don't think it'd be stepping on Wright's toes.  And other instances of Murph hitting 3rd...Wright was hitting 4th...so it's not like he was pushing Wright into some shameful position by hitting 3rd.

1harris1
1harris1

Wilmer has to prove he's a legitimate major league hitter before you can hit him third imo. Perhaps eventually, but not now.

Soup batting cleanup has been a joke from the start, so.....

vandelay
vandelay

@sjm25 Too lefty heavy at the top in that first lineup IMO.  I like Granderson at the top of the lineup more than 4th at this point (especially since Duda is a better #4 hitter), but if MDD hitting at the top of the lineup is something they want to do (personally I'd just hit MDD 6th)... maybe Granderson 6th would be the way to go.

hashburry
hashburry

@jimmybx1 You continue to say some of the stupidest things on this blog.  There was a time when I thought you were just trying to be a protagonist, but that has morphed into a belief you have the IQ of a mushroom.

vandelay
vandelay

@sjm25 Murphy.  He's told  TC and the coaching staff  that's he's much more comfortable hitting 2nd.  It's been mentioned a number of times over the past couple years when they've talked about adjusting the lineup for injuries or to "lengthen the lineup" to get guys like Murph/Wright/Byrd more RBI opps.  (Keith mentioned it again last night).  


Yeah it's weird that it's an issue now..given he hit 3rd plenty before reaching the MLB level...and there is that famous story where he identified his position in the field as a "#3 hitter"..but for whatever reason he hasn't liked to do it at the MLB level.


The numbers do bear that out too... career wise he's a putrid .249/.274/.324/.598 in over 300 AB in the 3rd spot, compared to .303/.348/.439/.786 hitting 2nd.  That said, I feel like at somepoint he'd get over it/get used to it and be fine.  One spot in the batting order shouldn't really make much of a difference  (I have more of an issue of who would hit 2nd...than I would with Murph hitting 3rd).  And perhaps some of that is more due to Murph feeling the pressure a bit more after other guys got hurt then it just being a #3 hitter thing. In 2012 they did hit Murph 3rd and Wright 4th for a couple weeks in order to get those guys more RBI chances...but for the most part Murph found his way into the 3rd spot due to injuries to Wright (and in some years other guys as well)...so maybe his struggles were more about pressing to be "the guy" once other guys got hurt than it just being about being the "#3 hitter"