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David Wright insists he’ll play on Saturday

David Wright remained out of the starting lineup with a bruised rotator cuff Friday.

However, he told reporters he will return to the lineup Saturday.

Prior to Friday’s game, Wright played catch and hit indoors.

“I would have liked to have been in the lineup,” he said. “I have knowledgeable people in my corner that are holding the reins on me a little bit to make sure I don’t do something. You don’t want to injure something more.”

The Mets are 2-5 in the seven games Wright has been active, but not playing.

“The team hasn’t played all that well, and obviously they’re playing a man down,” he said. “So I feel terrible about that, but I don’t make those decisions.”




51 comments
Frank Savona
Frank Savona

Just need 8 more like him on the field and just maybe we can win a game or two

Dave D'Agnese
Dave D'Agnese

Please put Campbell in left and keep a lineup the same for at lease a whole series for once. It would actually probably make the players relax and not have too much pressure at the plate to perform if they didn't have in the back of their mind if i go 0-4 today I'm not playing tomorrow.

Granderson

Murphy

Wright

Duda

Campbell

D'Arnaud

Lagares

Tejada

Just stick with that for a week and see how they fare. If they win 4 or more games then set it.

Dick Frost
Dick Frost

as long as Campbell is also in the line up.

Cheryl Ann Boogaard
Cheryl Ann Boogaard

Surgery? Come on. I understand doubt given team's history but MRI showed no structural damage & he was never given cortisone. Let's not over-react.

Jason A. Miller
Jason A. Miller

The Mets' season is over. Let him get the surgery the Mets are refusing to admit he needs, let him heal and recover, let him work on identifying pitches that are going to be called on the outside corner. Come back in 2015 healthy and a better hitter. Don't rush back just to hit .257/.315/.390 for the rest of this lost season.

John O'Neil
John O'Neil

Loretta Hartle way to be optimistic about the face of our franchise

sickofit
sickofit

They gotta keep Soupy Sales as far away as they can from 3rd base now that DW is back. Let him platoon with Luca Brazzi at first or play him in left field over CY vs lefties. He can't be any worse  than CY with the glove and looks to be head and shoulders over him with the bat. just don't let him anywhere near 3rd.

Steve Finelli
Steve Finelli

Bottom line is he's breaking down A LOT more over the last three years which has affected his performance at a time when he should be in his ABSOLUTE PRIME.  His OPS has been in steady decline and his fielding has been suspect over the same three year period.  You can only blame the stadium to a point as half of his games are played away from Citi.  This is an alarming trend and does not bode well for the latter years of this contract.  The willingness to want to play injured is noble but not befitting of a veteran captain.

pundit18
pundit18

Should we care? Campbell has better numbers.

Cheryl Ann
Cheryl Ann

There's no evidence that he's not healed enough to play. None us here are doctors. One of the best shoulder specialists in the area at one of the leading orthopedic hospitals read an MRI that did not show any structural damage. In fact, although quite commonplace now, a cortisone shot was felt to be unnecessary. Wright has not only rested an injury that is actually now almost a month old (hurt it originally on 6/12) he received daily PT from real professionals at HSS.

The coaches and FO can't force any player to bench because of injury if the doctors and medical evidence suggest otherwise. Remember, the players union allows everyone a second opinion for a reason.

The key here is being more prudent during regular season. I still don't buy that team officials and TC didn't know Wright was hurt when a beat reporter like Adam Rubin who wanders through the clubhouse before/after games knew Wright was visiting trainers often. They should have had the MRI right then. They also need to start giving him regular days off combined with scheduled off days to keep him fresh. Pirates rested McCutchen last game of series.

vandelay
vandelay

@Dave D'Agnese I agree that should be the lineup. ..I've been preaching the same lineup over the last few days


Though the whole players "worrying about going 0-4 and being yanked" is pretty overstated.  Outside of injuries (and some platooning of 1b), the regulars have all been in there quite often with the exception of LF.

vandelay
vandelay

Soup? Grandy? Kirk? Lagares? Duda? Tejada?

vandelay
vandelay

@Steve Finelli 2012 and 2013 were two of the best years of his career. Posted an .883 OPS in 2012 and a .904 OPS in 2013.   And if you go by OPS+ (which is a better measure since OPS has dropped league wide over the last few years...and the Mets are also playing in a tougher park than they used to) Wright 2013 was the best mark of his career, and his 2012 was the third best mark of his career.  All great  numbers and not evidence of steady decline.  2013 and in particular 2012 were also two of the best fielding years of his career.  So your talk of the "three year period" being bad isn't quite right.


Now this particular year has not been good.  The worst of his career so far...so if you want to be concerned about that, certainly that's reasonable.  And I agree the injuries have been a major concern of late.  First 6+ years of his career he pretty much never got hurt....with the exception of the beaning.... he played around 160 games almost every year.  Since 2011, if you include the spring training injuries he's had the fractured back, pulled abdominal, intercostal, and hamstring, and now a shoulder injury.  That's a lot of injuries over a short period of time and two of those injuries cost him huge chunks of time.  So that is worrisome. 

Steve Finelli
Steve Finelli

@pundit18 How many of those five games did Campbell lose with his glove?  He almost singlehandedly lost the game last night with his glove.

vandelay
vandelay

@Cheryl Ann Ha, i feel like everytime I see you post or tweet your opinion changes.  Going back and forth between they should DL him already and need to be careful with their 138 mil investment, to he's perfectly fine and they shouldn't DL him.

soupfan
soupfan

If they are worried about going 0-4 and being yanked must suck hitting over .500 for a week and being sat

Dave D'Agnese
Dave D'Agnese

I mostly meant that for Campbell and lagares. And flores when he was up here. But mostly it allows guys to get in a rhythm and routine knowing they are set every day.

Cheryl Ann
Cheryl Ann

Exactly. That was my point with reference to his GG caliber play in 2012. Injuries are concerning, this year hasn't been great especially in power department, but to say Wright's been on decline last 3 years is just absurd.

Steve Finelli
Steve Finelli

@vandelay @Steve Finelli OPS is one number......... to me the most important number is rbi's now that is partially a function of those around you but he has basically been surrounded by the same level of talent since Citi opened up.  His HR's and rbi's are significantly in decline and you would have to be blind not to see how many times a game he bounces ROUTINE throws to first.

Cheryl Ann
Cheryl Ann

Maybe my opinion wouldn't be changing so much if this team had a better history with injuries and if I felt I could believe anything that comes out of TC's mouth. When I heard Wright yesterday (for the first time since coming off field) I felt better able to judge. Based on what the doctor and MRI originally said, he was set to be and expected to be in lineup in Atlanta. When TC said that and then it didn't happen, any Mets fan would think the worst and, based on experience, say "just DL him". Now it seems clear team has slowed him down while leaving him to field ?s about why he's still active and they're playing short.

Cheryl Ann
Cheryl Ann

Got to win a series first to test that theory. LOL

Cheryl Ann
Cheryl Ann

Don't disagree but I don't think the idea that Wright was hiding this injury or deceiving anyone is valid. He had been seeing trainers apparently for almost two weeks and receiving what he called "treatments". What exactly that involved we don't know, but it wasn't as though he was popping Advil and having his wife do home massage therapy.

From what former players like Ojeda/Darling/Keith say a lot of players push through injuries or try to. Wright isn't the only one but since he is their $138 million dollar franchise face, they should have some protocol that demands coaches and FO are aware of repeated visits to trainers room. That way they could more closely monitor and give a day off if needed. For example, hitting coach could be on look out for him favoring his shoulder. They could have had the MRI done initially, had the higher dose anti-inflammatories, and started the intense PT and strengthening exercises he's been doing the last week. Ron Darling saw Wright was injured the day he slid and said so on camera....more awareness and pro activity would be welcome.

Same thing with the back and hamstring. I remember seeing Wright do an interview where his back was all iced up. Came out the trainers had "been treating" him. No X-Ray, no MRI. With the hamstring, we could all see on TV when he first tweeked it. Terry just said this week that back then they "had thought it was a cramp". They were treating him then too but without benefit of MRI. Had told him not to go full out.

If they want to take control (and I'm not saying they shouldn't) they need to do it much earlier in the process. My thinking is that if Wright, Harvey, Niese or anyone is visiting the trainers enough for a beat reporter to notice, then evaluation with real doctors with benefit of diagnostic tests should be mandatory.

vandelay
vandelay

@Dave D'Agnese Lagares has played a lot when he was healthy.  And while Flores didn't play, Tejada did.  Not everybody can play everyday

Dave D'Agnese
Dave D'Agnese

Campbell should be at the ballpark early every day shagging fly balls from this point forward so he can be in that lineup everyday and not be a defensive liability. Cuz right now he is the right handed version of Daniel Murphy.

Steve Finelli
Steve Finelli

@Cheryl Ann His power numbers and fielding numbers are down from three years ago.....u can blame injury or age....that's not absurd.....that's fact.

vandelay
vandelay

@Steve Finelli @vandelay  OPS and OPS+ are one of the better stats out there...and you were wrong to say he's been in steady decline there.  RBI is largely a function of the team around you. ..not a great measure of individual performance.  And he did drive  in 90+ as recently as 2012.   His RBI rate this year was actually pretty good for awhile...despite his overall poor year, which is another indication RBI is not a great measure.  HR are down somewhat, was still pretty good the last couple years 21 in 2012 and 18 in 112 games in 2013 (which would be a pace of about 25 over a full year).  I don't think low to mid 20s HRs is an indication of a big decline in power...that's about what I'd expect from Wright....he's not some 40 HR guy.   20-25 HR are good power numbers for a hitter like Wright and one who plays half his games in Citi field.  Posted a  SLG around .500 in 2012-2013 so that's good power.  XBH are nice..it doesn't have to be just HRs


This year the power has been way down and the throws have been bad..I agree there.  But again it's not a three year trend.

Cheryl Ann
Cheryl Ann

He should have won Gold Glove in 2012 over Headley. Duda isn't doing anyone any favors at first. Murphy has been charged with 2 errors (one last night) on balls Duda absolutely should have caught. Too early to judge fielding percentage but for record, it's about same as Arenado in way more innings since Nolan has been on DL for a month.

vandelay
vandelay

@Steve Finelli @Cheryl Ann 3 years ago was 2011...that was Wright's worst year.   Offense and fielding were way down. His 2012 and 2013 were world's better than his 2011 and much better than his 2009 and 2010 both offensively and defensively.  This year has been somewhat similar to his 2011.

Steve Finelli
Steve Finelli

@Cheryl Ann Too early?  The season is half over.  BTW Murphy is a butcher in the field.  Don't use him as an example.

Steve Finelli
Steve Finelli

@Steven Matregrano @Steve Finelli @pundit18 Well he's 27 not 29.  If u are going to play in the majors at a corner position u better have either power or speed he has neither therefore there really isn't a spot for him.  He hit at every level of the minors but he  is a line drive hitter w/o a position.

Cheryl Ann
Cheryl Ann

Over a full season, fielding % is based on much lower denominator than batting average so yes statistically it is too early. Did you watch last night? Murphy made a fabulous play to get to a ball that was a sure hit up the middle and Duda couldn't handle an easy pick. Keith, winner of multiple GGs at first, is a fine judge of talent and ability there and he had used words like "atrocious" to describe Duda's glove and footwork.

Steve Finelli
Steve Finelli

@Cheryl Ann Sweetheart I played the game at a high level I understand the components of fielding percentage.  In the example u gave, 2012, he made 10 errors for the year.  In 78 games played this year he's already made 9.  He's on track to double his errors from 2012.  Take the avg denominator and it will be his lowest % of his career. Plain and simple.

vandelay
vandelay

@Cheryl Ann put he has also been quite praiseworthy of Duda's play at other times.  Duda has saved the infielders a large number of errors this year

Cheryl Ann
Cheryl Ann

Ha. Just to tell you I use my little girl's name since I travel a lot for part-time work in summer and I like to keep her in my mind. I am a 50 year old HS baseball coach and have been for 20 years. I am hardly your sweetheart.

Steve Finelli
Steve Finelli

@Cheryl Ann Well I was trying to be polite.  I'm  57 yr old former Notre Dame all american and minor league has been.  Your points are valid but I don't see this year's trend being reversed and they still owe him $122 mil if u include the deferred $$.  This contract could be worse than Arod's.

vandelay
vandelay

@Steven Matregrano That "hitting 5th" stuff is a myth.  All of his success did not come hitting 5th. He has pretty similar numbers whether he's hitting 3rd, 4th, or 5th.  He only hit 5th consistently in 2005 (and there it was only 70 something games), 2006 and early 2007 (30-something games). Since mid 2007 he's mostly hit 3rd..and he put up great numbers.  His 2007, 2008, 2012, 2013 were elite level seasons and his 2009 and 2010 were good.  2011 he didn't play much and hit in various spots in the lineup.

Steve Finelli
Steve Finelli

@Steven Matregrano @Steve Finelli His underperformance is  big part of the problem.  He's 150 pts below his career ops and 35 pts his career avg.  He hasn't had protection in the lineup for years.  Watch the way the pitch him.  Fastball in slider or curve away.  He's swinging t A LOT of pitches out of the strike zone.

Cheryl Ann
Cheryl Ann

But why? Has he suddenly lost his eye at plate or is he just not disciplined anymore? Maybe he's tired of getting left on second or third? Has been on base with hits and walks well over 100 times and come home to score only 30% of time. I think quality of line-up in WBC and trust that others could do the job, had a lot to do with his success there. Maybe if one of Mets pitchers threw inside to another team's big bats once in awhile.....Good grief, aside from power and BA, he was on pace for nearly 200 hits, 40 doubles and 85 RBI. The way some people talk, you'd think he was batting .200 with 20 RBI at half way point. Geez

Steve Finelli
Steve Finelli

@Cheryl Ann He's basically had the same types of players around him for the last five years.  This hasn't been sudden his ops has been in decline FOR THREE YEARS.