MLB: Chicago Cubs at New York Mets

David Wright hit with fastball, will likely miss Sunday’s game

Cubs RHP Dan Straily hit David Wright‘s left shoulder with a fastball on Saturday night.

It is the same spot on the same shoulder that forced Wright to miss time before the All-Star break.

Mets trainer Ray Ramirez eventually encouraged Terry Collins to pull Wright from the game.

Collins, who had been waiting to give Wright a day off anyway, said after the game that Wright will almost certainly sit out Sunday.

“It just sucks that out of my whole back, it had to be that one area,” Wright later said. “We’ll see how it feels tomorrow. … If I’m in the lineup, physically I’m good to go.”

Wright is batting .238 with no home runs, two doubles and eight RBI in 28 game since first missing time with a sore shoulder before the All-Star break.




122 comments
Tarheel11
Tarheel11

I can't believe this site. You don't have to hit somebody to make a point. And I'm not condoning head hunting. Those guys should be thrown out of baseball. And last thing I am suggesting is charging the mound or starting a fight. But how many times this year has DW been bailing backwards because he is continuously being busted in? Any coincidence that he won't dive over the plate and drive the ball to right field? Maybe. I don't know. We can't do the same to the other team? 

I'm not saying hitting guys but in general you have to make the point or else DW will continue to get treated this way. Do the same to the other team and that will stop. 

Just ask Matt Harvey. Georgia Tech used to bust Dustin Ackley all the time the same way. Harvey stopped that. Didn't hit a single person. But he buzzed three straight guys inside. The message got delivered. 

This is baseball not checkers. But I guess Ron Darling and Keith Hernandez are wrong too

dabo
dabo

Take a week off captain......take a week

soupfan
soupfan

Looking forward to some soup today. Love seeing him get more playing time see if he can get hot playing more

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

The guy can use a few days off. I think the shoulder is bothering him more than he lets on. Those power stats are Tejadaesue.  Am also concerned about Granderson. The guy has always been streaky but he looks particularly anemic at the plate right now. I don't expect him to hit .300 but .220 is unacceptable.

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

30 plus games left? Let Flores play 3b the rest of the year ..let Wright rest especially if hes playing hurt already.....let Montero pitch the rest of whats left this year shut deGrom down to be safe? We are not going anywhere this year anyway.Flores and Montero get much needed experience at the big level.

josef
josef

The only good thing about today's lineup is that super underachieving Wright is not playing! However, Tejada, one of the worst SS in the league is back, and den Dekkar, who belongs to the minors is in again! With Montero pitching and TC managing, God help us!

Gregor Kitzis
Gregor Kitzis

I guess Campbell will play third today and hopefully for a while. The last time Wright was out Campbell hit .400 so talk of how much they missed his bat was insane, inane and to logical thought the bane. I can't watch Wright feign when from Campbell base hits rain so though it's a pain they must refrain from allowing Wright to reign since they have so much to gain by having Wright abstain and making Campbell their main, though they would risk by an infield defense of Murphy, Flores and Campbell being slain but at least they can all hit the damn ball!

matmil
matmil

I don't think the Cubs pitchers are throwing at Mets batters. It was just a mistake. There is no reason they would, their not in a pennant race. There's no extra emotions out there. If the Mets retaliate it is just stupid.

dooley
dooley

I am all for brush backs, but people on this site want bench clearing brawls and gladiator fights. I just have trouble believing he was hit intentionally, after all, this was Dan Straily pitching. Also, remember that Niese struck Heyward in the jaw, which could have ended Heyward's career.

gts41
gts41

The unbelievable childish stuff that goes on here. Fight, Charge mound, retaliate? It's doesn't have to happen immediately you have 2 more games to pick your perfect spot to get some revenge if you think it's warranted. We have plenty of guys who throw 95 plus. Some Cub will get drilled today or tomorrow.  Just don't make it Castro we don't need any hard feelings when he's playing SS for us next year.

Jerry Colfer
Jerry Colfer

There was a nice pre-game interview with Jon Niese where he talked about be afraid of contact as a rookie and nibbling. It really explained deGrom's early struggles and Montero as well. Hopefully today is the day he pushes past it.

hankypanky
hankypanky

Montero has enough to worry about today. Hopefully, retaliation won't be on his plate.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

The decision to not give him 2 weeks off around the all stat break is looking pretty bad at this point.

bobblog
bobblog

Trade David wright for Matt kemp- put kemp in right and move granderson to left- move Murphy to third base( his best position) give Herrara a shot at second - kemp is 29 years old and signed thru 2019, wright is 31 and signed thru 2020- money not far off at 160m vs 138m

And trade so,ex pitching for a shortstop

MetsFan1962
MetsFan1962

I guess we will see Campbell or Flores at 3B. DW should spend his off time looking at video when he bat swing was level and good. The upper-cut swing ends up to be a sure out.

bromancer
bromancer

Here comes the captain's traditional late summer vacation. 

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

So does Montero become the next Estes? God that still pisses me off. 

isledogs19
isledogs19

The first Cub to bat in the next inning should have been drilled, not brushed back! 

cleonsvan
cleonsvan

No one will notice his absence. I know the line score won't. The guy is a shell and never was a winner.

dabo
dabo

@Tarheel11 This is crazy Met pitchers never throw hard and inside while DW  is buzzed nightly!  Why and the Met pitchers so scared to protect a player.  See what happened in AZ this year when Goldschmidt was hit the pitchers took immediate actions!  This needs to happen in Queens ASAP!

Cheryl Ann
Cheryl Ann

Howie Rose just said Wright will probably be held out until the Dodgers series on Friday. DW didn't speak to media and TC didn't speak about him. Team spokesperson just said DW still "pretty sore". That shoulder has been worse than they've let on for a long while. Heard Ray Ramirez told TC to pull Wright yesterday.

Gregor Kitzis
Gregor Kitzis

@Albert E Lewis Did you watch the game last night? Flores was amazing at SS and he's never going to play third for the Mets so you learn nothing by doing that, unless what you really mean by shutting deGrom down is playing him at shortstop.

Gregor Kitzis
Gregor Kitzis

@josef I'm sorry your TV hasn't worked recently. I guess you missed the line drives, plate discipline and outstanding defense den Dekker been playing. I guess that's also why you can't even spell his name.

hankypanky
hankypanky

Hmm. So does this mean that the giant asteroid approaching Earth should be of concern to us?

hankypanky
hankypanky

Forget the rain in Spain! This is better.

nncyel
nncyel

@dooley On a per AB basis, Chris Young, Ruben Tejada, and Eric Young are the Mets who've been HBP the most this year. Pitchers aren't targeting the Mets best players and I think in general there's not a lot of that sort of thing going on and I don't think there really ever has been. The Young and Tejada stats are clear proof of that. Why would pitchers intentionally be hitting three guys who can barely make their way on base otherwise.

bobblog
bobblog

Wright for kemp

Herrara at second

Murphy at third

Pitching prospects for Castro to play short

Keep Harvey, wheeler, DeGrom - hopefully syndegaard

Add Parnell to black, mejia, familia

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

No. Much better chance wright bounces back then Kemp stays healthy and bounces back.

rico
rico

@Tarheel11 you mean he pitches a one hitter vs roger clemens and the yankees, hits a hr?

what are you talking about?

nncyel
nncyel

@cleonsvan How does one respond to such utter stupidity? David Wright career WAR over 11 seasons 49.5. Jose Reyes (who I loved as a Met by the way) 36 WAR over 12 seasons. Any other candidate for best Mets player over the last 10 years or so? Carlos Beltran WAR as a Met 31.3 over 7 seasons. You can discount WAR if you'd like, but based on that stat, Wright has been the Mets best player over an extended period of time. He's having a down year and still has a WAR of 2.6 which is close to tops on the team. 

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

@Gregor Kitzis @Albert E Lewis  Most scouts don't think Flores has the range for SS..thats the only reason I said that...Its not like Wright is tearing up the baseball this year anyway. and if hes in swift decline that big contract is going to look bad in the near future...I like Wright but I think the Mets made a mistake in not trading him instead of signing him to that contract.

nncyel
nncyel

To correct myself, Duda has been hit at about the same rate as the Youngs. But perhaps the Mets best hitter this year, Murphy, hasn't been hit at all.

jimm1200
jimm1200

@BringBackDaveTelghe That's what I'm saying.  If Kemp was significantly cheaper, I might think about it (so Mets would then have money to spend on another 20 million a year player).


But yeah, Wright has a higher chance to get better.  Kemp just seems done completely.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@rico @Tarheel11 That they left it up to Estes to retaliate against Clemens. And then he couldn't even hit him. The way Clemens was to Piazza even throwing the broken bat at him? Come on, you've got to do better than that

cleonsvan
cleonsvan

@nncyel @cleonsvan 0/8/.238 since all star break. The only stats that count right now. He is a shell and not a winner which he has never done.

Gregor Kitzis
Gregor Kitzis

@Albert E Lewis I agree but he's untradable now and most scouts thought Montero would have a better year than deGrom so all I know his Flores has looked much better than anyone expected at short and if he becomes a middle of the order bat then he's an All-Star shortstop.

mi
mi

@jimm1200 @BringBackDaveTelghe hes gunna have 35 doubles, 5 triples, 20+ hrs, hit 280 and steal 10+ bases...exaclty what is be bouncing back from

rico
rico

@Tarheel11 @rico maybe you should have watched the game instead of bloviating about BS from 15 years ago?  And would you have wanted to fight Clemons? The Mets and Estes in particular humiliated Clemons that day by beating him mightily . Gosh you're petty

nncyel
nncyel

@cleonsvan No, his WAR this year is 2.6. You said he "never was a winner". The WAR stats completely contradict your statement, instead indicating he has been the most important contributor to the Mets winning over the last 10 years+.


Instead of looking at 10 years+ you want to judge him on a handful of games since the Allstar break. Ridiculous.

cleonsvan
cleonsvan

@nncyel @cleonsvan  Right, since the all-star game when the Mets had a chance to close in the standings this guy has done nothing to carry this team or get a big hit. Never mind a homerun. I can count on my hand how many big hits David Wright has had in his career. But I couldn't tell you how many times he struck out in big spots. He is a compiler, nothing else. WAR and sabermetrics is good for analysis but doesn't tell you the whole picture. It doesn't provide you real insight to a player of how clutch he is, or what his intangibles are.

cleonsvan
cleonsvan

@Olerud42 I've seen enough of your posts that you shouldn't be calling anyone an idiot.

Dana Smith
Dana Smith

@cleonsvan Intangibles are leadership, consistent solid defense play and even when struggling, good ABs. His stats have come down in recent years due to random injuries (concussion, back stress fracture, torn hamstring, now the shoulder). It's clear he is not producing this year, but to call him a "loser"...just wow. I remember in 2007 as the rest of our team was flushing a 7 game lead down the toilet,David Wright had the best two months of his career down the stretch to do all he could to bring his team back to the post season. Regardless, David has won us many games. You are a JOKE, sir.

cleonsvan
cleonsvan

@Dana Smith @cleonsvan  I didn't call him a loser. Where did I use that word? Seriously...I said he's not a winner. Big difference. And I stand by it...and he is a shell of his former self. He is vastly overrated. And if you build around him, we will remain mediocre. He should not be a the centerpiece of our rebuilding by any stretch. He is a complimentary piece at this point and he should not be batting third. You are the joke for writing your revisionist junk.

nncyel
nncyel

@Dana Smith @cleonsvan To be completely fair, Wright had very good years in 2012 and 2013, including his second best WAR ever in 2012. So I wouldn't say his stats have come down in recent years. This year is not a good year, but he's bounced back before from poor (by his standards) years. Let's see what he does next year before proclaiming his career to be on a steep descent.

vandelay
vandelay

@Dana Smith @cleonsvan Post of the year!


David has sucked this year, but those bashing his career are pretty ridiculous.  And if we are going to give up on David after one down year- we should stop with all the Cargo, Kemp, Hanley, Castro, etc talk - those guys certainly have some  bad and/or injury filled years on their resume.  

nncyel
nncyel

@cleonsvan Let's see, he's not a winner but he's not a loser either. So he's just average - mediocre.


NL leader in WAR at 3b in 2013. He's having a poor 2014 (but still among the team leaders in WAR). But according to you he's mediocre. Whatever. You're entitled to your opinion, but when that opinion is so strongly opposed to career stats and even last year's stats which show otherwise, the only conclusion I can draw is you simply have an agenda. Perhaps you're right. Can we at least give him 2015 to see if he has a bounceback year before throwing him on the curb, or putting him in the 7th hole?

cleonsvan
cleonsvan

@nncyel @cleonsvan  All I'm saying is he is not that good anymore. And I don't believe he has the type of intangibles like Jeter or Hernandez where winning gravitates to them. I didn't say bat him 7th. I do have an agenda. I would like to move that contract and build around someone else. A smiley face doesn't make your team a winner.

nncyel
nncyel

@cleonsvan @nncyel You may be right, but he's had poor years before and bounced back. I just don't see how you can take someone who was the leader in WAR at his position just last year and conclude that his poor year this year means that he's done.


Moreover if the Mets had the equivalents ofJose Reyes at SS and Carlos Beltran in the OF on the team right now, Wright's mediocre year wouldn't be a problem. Wright is the least of their problems. How about the Mets improve at LF RF SS before they start worrying about 3B?

cleonsvan
cleonsvan

@nncyel @cleonsvan  We should worry about 3B. He has an albatross of a contract. His decline making it more of one every year. He had an opportunity to get hot and get this team back in contention. He didn't. That's my point. Granderson's contract is a problem too but the subject is on Wright, the captain, the leader, the face of the franchise. The last face of the franchise won a world series and almost won another. This one can't smell the playoffs or even .500. Not all his fault obviously but his play isn't exactly inspiring either. Wright was a pretty good player but no longer.

nncyel
nncyel

@cleonsvan @nncyel What were you saying about him last year when he was the leader in WAR at his position? Any praise? 


Guy can't have an off year?


Who do you want at 3B? Let's look at whoever that is and see if he's ever had a bad year. Or do you want Flores there? If Wright had left the team that's probably who they'd have there right now. I hope Flores blossoms. But based on what we've seen so far, doesn't look good.

cleonsvan
cleonsvan

@nncyel @cleonsvan  I want David to excel. He had a pretty good year last year, but fails to come through in big spots. For the face of the franchise, he is underwhelming. That's how I will think of him when his career is over. Again, I don't care about WAR. We didn't have WAR in the 60s, 70s and 80s and we knew who was good and wasn't without it.