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David Wright had doubts about Daniel Murphy at 2B

Daniel Murphy made his big-league debut August 2, 2008.

He entered the league as a corner infielder. He later moved to the outfield, failed and was asked to learn second base in 2011.

“Quite frankly, I had my doubts,” David Wright said about Murphy playing second base (MLB.com, July 15). “I saw him fumble a lot of double-play balls. I saw him fumble a lot of routine second-base-type stuff. But to see the work that he put in every day made me more and more comfortable with him as a second baseman. This guy was out there for almost a painful amount of time trying to get better.”

It took six years and more than 2,800 plate appearances, but, tonight, Murphy will finally represent the Mets during MLB All-Star Game in Minnesota.

“I’m soaking it in,” Murphy said (MLB.com, July 15). “I’m really trying to take a step back and relax, enjoy it as much as I can.”



Murphy is a tireless worker, adjusting and taking instruction from management every step of his career >> Read more at MLB.com.

Murphy says his teammates are all feeding off one another, and good times may continue in 2014 >> Read more in the New York Post.

If the Mets continue to play well after the All-Star break, it seems far more likely Sandy Alderson would keep Murphy rather than trade him >> Read more in the Daily News.




72 comments
Marc Seldin
Marc Seldin

Then he lied when he said that he believed in his team.

Daniel Diffin
Daniel Diffin

Murphy is a great example of a player who has gotten where he is today by sheer hard work and determination. He works harder than anyone. He was a defensive liability pretty much anywhere he was placed (much like Flores is right now), but he made himself into a decent (if still somewhat limited) second baseman by working as hard as he possibly could. Hopefully, Flores and the other minor league infielders who are trying to make it at either SS or 2B will follow his lead. I agree with some of the others here that trading him would be very tough--he's the kind of guy you want on your side. Still, 2B may be the one position where we have a lot of highly touted prospects, and the temptation to trade him as part of a package to get an outfielder with some offensive prowess is pretty high. 

Michael Mee
Michael Mee

Very proud of Murphy, it's fun to follow a guy from his time in the minors through the ups and downs he's had in the majors, and now he gets to play in an All-Star game. I would not be -angry- if he gets traded because I realize there are a lot of reasons it makes sense. But I would still be SAD! 

pologround
pologround

The pressure of playing in NY KILLS MOST PLAYERS.....Murphy is good in the spot light.....To trade him would be a huge mistake...........He is tough and a winner............Put Flores in the outfield at Vegas and lets see how he does......

Born2Fish74
Born2Fish74

Trade him while his value is high and he isn't making big money, they have Herrera ( He projects as an above average second baseman who adds value with power, OBP and a few stolen bases)  and get a SS or package for a LF with power. 




theglider
theglider

The guy can hit and hit at Citifield. Anyone who thinks he can be replaced is hoping and that's a dangerous thing.

Keep him. We know what he can do. Everyone else is just a big if.

darkknight
darkknight

Why do people say Murphy has peaked? Not even 30, most consistent hitter, doesn't rely on speed. He's the exacttype of hitter that hasn't peaked yet. How many full seasons has he played? He's gonna keep getting better!

Robby Johnson
Robby Johnson

I'd love to see the Mets hang onto Murph through the deadline, unless, of course, they're blown away with an offer they can't refuse.  Up to this point though, it hasn't sounded like any of the offers are close to blowing them away.

That said, I've caught myself wondering what a package of Murph and Colon might fetch.  Now, the dominos would have to fall into place for a team - maybe even a third team - to covet both of those guys in the same deal.  But remember just how crazy and loose contending teams can get around the deadline.

An All-Star caliber bat with a utility background combined with a veteran pitcher who has AL/NL experience, along with pennant-chase/postseason experience - lots of it.  I hate trying to speculate what type or level of prospect(s)/players that would return, but I'd have to imagine the Mets would get a pretty serious haul in return.  Again, we've seen GMs of contending teams get giddy and loose this time of year, so let's see.

dtlmetsfan
dtlmetsfan

I love how Keith calls him "The Murph" as opposed to Murph.

ventura_4
ventura_4

I love Murph, but I fear that I like him more than the Mets do. If they're not going to pay the man, they have to trade him, and his value will never be higher than it is right now. 


Again, I don't want to trade Murphy, I'm just not confident that the Mets are going to handle this correctly. 

darkknight
darkknight

I don't think Murphy's value is at his highest now. I think it's highest after he signs his extension this winter and after he starts the Allstar game next year.

Wilmer flores value is at his highest. He hasn't proven he isn't a good 2b yet, which is true. He is destroying the ball in Vegas, and the stats show he is ready. Those stats are false.

Sandy sees this, Wilmer will be gone by July 31st.

Robby Johnson
Robby Johnson

Lots of negative stuff has been said about Murph over the years - some of it justified, most of it not.  He's an easy target to bash with his quirky mannerisms and style of play, specifically his lack of "smoothness" in the field.

But man, all these quotes from Wright did for me is reinforce my belief that Murph is the hardest worker on the team.  His attitude and the pride he takes in wearing the uniform are things I wish every Mets player cared as much about.  For these reasons, and many more, I really hope he's around to see winning seasons in a Mets uniform.

Jay Cross
Jay Cross

I really enjoy watching Dan Murphy play. Open to trading him if the return is right, but even if it is, I will miss his off the charts enthusiasm. It would be great if he got to finally play on a winning Mets teams after all these BS seasons. 

MetsFan1962
MetsFan1962

Murphy is a Met and should remain a Met. He worked hard to become the player he is. Daniel, represent the Mets well in your 1st AS nod. We'll be watching the game....Good Luck and more importantly, have fun.

Dave D'Agnese
Dave D'Agnese

i love murph but i'll be shocked if he is still on this team after july 31st. especially if we are still 7 games back or more. based on managements track record he will be traded to oak, la, la, det, or baltimore

Steve Barbato
Steve Barbato

Our* and it makes the most sense to trade him now if you get back your asking price. His value will never be higher than now so its how you get back the most on a guy thats not part of the future of the franchise. You want Murphy to cool off first? Or get injured? Would you want him to walk the same way Reyes did? And get nothing in return? Then what? Still licking our wounds bc of that one

Jack Fitzpatrick
Jack Fitzpatrick

Now we have doubts about Wright at 3b. 150+ Ks this year?

Doubleday
Doubleday

Ya know what, DW?  I've seen some plays this year where I still have my doubts.  That being said, I think Murph is the model of an all-star on and off the field.  I am proud of him.

mrmet4mvp
mrmet4mvp

Congratulations Murph.  I'm very proud of you!

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

The ONLY way id trade Murph is in a package for a legit power bat..nothing less.

Raymond Kim
Raymond Kim

I assume the comments section will now turn into a Bash Murphy club, and then somehow shift to Tejada and then somehow someone will propose a horrendous trade for Tulo or Stanton, or in some cases both.  Somehow in those scenarios we keep all of our best players and prospects and inject 2 star sluggers into our lineup.  

Daniel Diffin
Daniel Diffin

@mustang66 I hate the idea of trading Murph--unless they get a power bat for the outfield, as you say. If they could package him with a pitcher and get a first class hitter, it would certainly take the sting out of losing him. But you are right about his being such a big part of the heart of this team. He's just an all-around good guy, a good team-mate, a hard worker, and along with Wright, probably the easiest guy on the team to root for.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

Not sure how trading Murphy; a good, but hardly great player shows they don't care about winning.

Mexpert
Mexpert

@mustang66 If they trade Murphy it is to save the difference between 10 mil Murph will make vs the 500,000 Wilmer will make. Winning is the last thing that the Wilpons care about.

anymos
anymos

@theglider Its about finances (isn't everything with this team?)  We have limited payroll. If we can put Herrera or Flores at second for minimum $$$ and use Murph to land an OF and allocate the money he's due to fill another hole- then it might make sense.  Its precisely the type of thing Beane wins accolades for doing.

Robby Johnson
Robby Johnson

@darkknight I agree, and not just because I think the glass is half full.  Murph is a hardworking SOB who takes pride in his craft.  The offseason following his first or second professional season in the minors, SNY sent cameras down to get a peak at his offseason lifestyle.

The entire segment consisted of Murph working on literally every facet of his game.  I remember listening to one of his college or high school coaches talking on camera about how they'd never had a player who paid so much attention to detail and worked as hard as Murph - they made it sound like it wasn't even a close comparison.  Every former coach is going to back his player, but you could just tell they were being sincere.

With all of that said, I don't think he's peaked either because the guy is just a baseball junky.  Think about it - how much better has he gotten as a 2B?  Not saying he's great defensively, but think about how bad he used to look.  He didn't get better by accident, it's because his work ethic is relentless.

ponzies86
ponzies86

@ventura_4 Murphy has peaked and won't get any better offensively if we can get back a decent prospect for him I say do it. Murphy is also liability on defense 

Raymond Kim
Raymond Kim

@darkknight I think teams like to negotiate their own contracts, unless you think Murphy gives the mets a hometown discount and then SA takes advantage of that and trades him?  Not likely.  His value is the highest right now.  Why do you think (1) he makes the all star game next year (2) that the All star game means anything.  It is a fan vote.  


Wilmer Flores is a 22 year old prospect.  He still has a ceiling, Murphy is what he is.  Wilmer will be traded because he still projects to be more not because he has reached his ceiling already, which I dont think he has.  

spelletrader
spelletrader

He's 33rd in strike outs in the league (5th at 3b) and in the top 5 in most offense statistics for 3b. He has a 2.4 war on a team that's had a weak offense for most of the season.

David is the least of this teams problems.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

Easy....Murphy is a good, not great player.  He absolutely has a place on a good team, but it's so easy to knock him because he's not good at any one thing.

Jay Cross
Jay Cross

@Mexpert @mustang66 If it results in that $10M going toward a power hitting LF while Wilmer roughly duplicates Murphy's numbers at second base (no sure thing, but at least plausible) then I guess I'm okay with it.

Prefer to keep Murph and just spend extra to build a winner, but I think we all know that's not how the Mets operate anymore. 

If they trade Murph simply to pocket his salary, then screw the Wilpons. 

Robby Johnson
Robby Johnson

@ponzies86 @ventura_4 You guys all like to say he's a liability on defense because of his past seasons, but you never like to acknowledge the fact that he was learning a brand new position after being shuffled around from 3 completely different ones.

Fact is, Murph is checking out as an "average" defensive 2B according to UZR or UZR/150.  If the best, most consistent hitter on the team is an average defender, I'll take it all day every day.

darkknight
darkknight

A contract never stops trades from happening if the player is outperforming it. Murphy is 29 coming into his own and playing in his first all star game. It's his third full season and is getting better and better. He isn't jose Reyes, he doesn't rely on his speed, his peak is next year or the year after. He has always been a leader but is becoming a true Met.

Wilmer has no position. If he works as hard as murph, he can become a good second basemen too. Unfortunately, we no longer have time to let him practice his 2b here, the team is ready to win.

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

@Joseph Baffi the fire and color is something I see various people ignore ... guess it's a matter of taste, but I don't watch fantasy baseball, I want a team. And, someone who is a good hitter, better defensively than some give him credit for AND has fire/flavor is someone I want on my team.  I don't know what Flores is going to give me. I know Murphy. I don't mind him as part of the IF with Duda, Wright and D'Arnaud for the immediate future. 

Raymond Kim
Raymond Kim

@Joseph Baffi DO you read?  We do not have enough to get those guys without stripping our team.  Think the melo trade the knicks made with denver.  The conversation will start with Syndergaard and Darnaud plus more. How do you suppose we get stanton after dealing those guys.  WE WAIT until we know harvey comes back healthy then we deal pitching.  Until then it makes no sense.  

Robby Johnson
Robby Johnson

@Jay Cross @Mexpert @mustang66 It's insane to me that people take a career .290 batting average so lightly or think it can be duplicated so easily.

I'm not talking about the other parts of his game, but to consistently hit near .300 for a career isn't something to be overlooked so easily.

tom25
tom25

@Robby Johnson Those stats are fine as far as they go, but Murphy is not an "average" second baseman.  He's a tick below that.  He's done an amazing job getting every last ounce out of his abiity- we can afford, with respect to his defense, to keep him at second if we have a good shortstop.

Raymond Kim
Raymond Kim

@darkknight I never said a contract stops a trade from happening.  But people like to negotiate their own contracts with players.  It is like me going to the appel store getting an iphone and signing up with att.  Then selling it to you, even though you get better service with verizon.  If you had negotiated you would have gotten what you wanted.  That is why, teams offer those limited windows to negotiate a contract with a player before a trade.  The only instance which you make a valid point is if he traded to a team he does not want to play for, and the extension he could sign with the mets does not contain a list of teams he cannot be traded to.  But then again, you didnt mention any of that.  


Wilmer Flores is a 3b.  Just not for the Mets.

Mexpert
Mexpert

@mi @Jay Cross @Mexpert @mustang66 Look I love Wimers bat and his arm. I also like the no panic way he plays. If someone said we think Wilmer will produce and that's why we traded Murph . Great!!! I have no problem with a plan and conviction. But If it is to save money and hope then its a wrong move. Sandy will never commit he is afraid. I think Flores should play SS with Murph at second and we would be pounding the ball The power arms wont be affected by the potential loss of range. 

hankypanky
hankypanky

The worst fielding duo in baseball.

Born2Fish74
Born2Fish74

@Mexpert SMH at how bad the defense ( range )would be putting Wilmer at SS with Murphy. Why waste what is a good and can be great pitching on shoddy defense? If anything I want to trade murphy to open a spot at 2nd for Herrera, with the trade chip and money that can be reallocated get better SS and LF with pop

Daniel Diffin
Daniel Diffin

@Born2Fish74 @Mexpert I agree about the defense. If Flores works hard enough to become a competent (I don't mean flashy--I mean good enough not to cost more runs than he produces) fielder, then we should find a spot for him. Part of the problem is that he has been moved around so much that he has not been able to develop competence at any one spot. Is he a third baseman, a short stop, a second baseman, or a first baseman? Hasn't he been tried just about everywhere? Give him a chance to play one full season in the minors at a single position to see if he can actually develop into someone who won't blow the game for our young pitchers. It will probably help him offensively, too, if he is at least comfortable defensively. It's hard to keep your head in the game if you are brooding over the error you made that cost your team a run or two.