Daniel Murphy as the ‘Super-Utility Man’

In 2015, the Mets should use their All-Star 2B Daniel Murphy as “a super-utility man,” writes columnist Joel Sherman (NY Post, Sept. 3).


Daniel Murphy with some fancy footwork


“In the best-case scenario, Lucas Duda is not a one-year wonder, Wilmer Flores and/or Dilson Herrera can produce at second, David Wright has a bounce-back season and the Mets find an impact left fielder,” writes Sherman. “Even in that scenario, there would be 70 to 90 starts for Murphy at first, second, third, left field and DH plus pinch hits, double-switches, etc.”

In Sherman’s view, these 90 starts and 300 at bats would be a good return for the roughly $8-9 million Murphy will earn next season, after which he can be a free agent.


miniMCavatarMatthew Cerrone: If I had a dime for every time I’ve written about Murphy eventually being a super-utility guy, I could retire. Sherman uses Ben Zobrist as a comparison. I always preferred Mark De Rosa, mentioned again as recently as last June. Murphy is in a tough spot, as are the Mets. He’s essentially a singles and doubles hitter with an average glove who is going to be a free agent after next season, which is why he has so little value on the trade market. At the same time, he’s an All-Star second baseman, leading the team in hits, which is why he’s so valuable to the Mets. He’s also a fan favorite and a clubhouse champion. And then along comes Hererra…

The kid is 20. The league will eventually begin to pitch Hererra in a way that will force him to struggle. It’s inevitable. The question is: Will he adjust? I think he will. He appears sound enough, and people say he’s smart enough, that he’ll be able snap back. But, again, he’s 20 and a lot can happen before he’s an established, every-day player, capable of withstanding the adjustments of big-league pitchers, coaches and scouting reports.

I like Murphy as the super-utility role, but I just can’t see how the Mets are ready to make that happen next season. To me, this is his fate if he stays here beyond next season. Otherwise, I think he ends up being De Rosa (or Zobrist) for a different team. In the meantime, next season, when Hererra will be 21, and with only 100 at bats under his belt, I find it hard to believe the Mets will trade Murphy’s 200 hits for a B-level pitcher, a Mark De Rosa-type and the potential of an infield prospect.

By the way, if Murphy does become a super-utility man, he should demand a blue and orange cape…




156 comments
matt greco
matt greco

a $9 million utility player on a team with a $70 million payroll...makes perfect sense.


good god, the level of stupid...

Wouldnt a player have to be proficient at multiple positions to be considered a super utility player, not barely adequate at one, like Murphy is. It'll never happen. he's not Ben Zobrist, as Joel Sherman thinks he can become

robo
robo

i would take the chance and give murph a 3 yr 35 million deal

blueorange
blueorange

One more thing. Nice of wright to talk about feeling good at the plate. So far 0 for 4 w/ 4k's how many lob? Don't get me wrong I think DW is awesome(having an off year) but what's with this team talking about things they should be left alone. TC is the master of sticking his foot in his mouth.

blueorange
blueorange

Seriously! Sherman is an idiot. Murphy has proved that he is an everyday player and was leading the league in hits before going on the DL and Sherman writes about being a super utility guy. Why would the Mets pay him $8-9 mil to be a super utility guy. Metsblog is just getting worse every year. Why bother posting this nonsense. The Lagares MVP next year article is just another example of bs articles. I like Lagares but really MVP hype is just reaching for something to write about. I am now off my soap box...

C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

Can the Mets afford to lose Murph's automatic 180 to 200 hits each season?  Does his bat produce enough to excuse his defense?

Murph's defense is never going to set the world on fire.  No matter how many times he throws a ball through his legs for a 4-3.  But i don't see the Mets getting those hits anywhere else.  Especially not without spending some money.  

It's sad.  In a different financial situation, one in which the Mets could afford to put some other quality players in this lineup, Murph's bat would be a nice luxury to have coming from 2B.  

grillruben
grillruben

Can Herrera play a darn month in the bigs before we start talking about moving around our best hitter to accommodate him?!! You guys get so hype about young unproven players, it's ridiculous.

George Kirchmann
George Kirchmann

Why is there so much concern about Murphy? The Mets need a shortstop, leftfielder and d'Arnaud and Wright to show they belong at the big league level. Leave Murph at second next year and give Herrera another year to improve in the minors. If he does, then he can replace Murphy if the Mets let him go as a free agent.

Richard Alicea
Richard Alicea

Though our record stinks...I like this team with at least that one addition (Big OF bat.)  Something they could have had in CRUZ if the Wilpon's weren't cheap!

Richard Alicea
Richard Alicea

Once Harvey gets back this team is one player away (Potent OF bat) from being contenders.  Travis, Duda, Flores, Herrera and Lagares have shown tremendous promise and should be even better in 2015.  I'd say trade a prospect or two and Murphy for a solid bat.  Flores and Travis are about to explode...and Duda will soon learn how to hit lefties.  Herrera already looks like a winner at 2d base.  Flores is more than adequate at short; give him time and he will develop even further.  I see quite a bit of promise with this club...pitching is set...we have horses in the bullpen and an awesome starting 5 or 6.

Richard Jones
Richard Jones

If Herrera is ready to play 2nd full time, which is still questionable, Murphy would bring more value in a trade than he would have as a "super utility player.. Herrera has had good moments but his lack of experience has been exposed. I still think he will need time in AAA to improve his defense and bat.
If the Mets can get someone of value for Murphy this winter they should pull the trigger and Herrera will have to learn at the big league level. If they can not get value for Murphy, start him at 2nd until mid season and trade him then.

matmil
matmil

Any team that can afford, I mean talent wise, to have Murphy as your utility man is rich indeed. In a perfect world maybe but the Mets are far from rich. Any way you look at it.

Good point. The Mets are always waiting for the unlikely perfect storm whereby minor league players prove themselves to be major league players and the once formidable who are hurt or past their prime return to their former glory.  Beats spending big market dollars.


dukewillie
dukewillie

Today's lineup as per Adam Ruben has Tejada playing SS and Flores riding the pine...Why is Flores not in today's lineup after having gone 3-4 on Monday and 2-4 yesterday? If I didn't know any better, I would swear this is a conspiracy by TC against Flores to push Tejada back in the line. Freaking TC  :(


theglider
theglider

So they'd be taking a lifetime .292 hitter and replace him with a pair if absolute unknowns? That's insane.

And while his glove is not good, compare it to when he started playing second. He has improved. Keep him at second instead of putting another maybe in the lineup.

triviaace
triviaace

It's time for Alderson and Collins to find new emloyment and the Mets to start 2015 with new management, management who know baseball and how to win.

tk2120
tk2120

is this a joke? this is not a rookie...this is a guy who took forever to find a position & now that he has, everyone wants to move him around... i'm sorry daniel murphy, anyone that is near the top of the league in hitting every year has to go.... gimme a break people... how bout, instead of being a bunch of little fairies every effing year, this team takes care of its players for once!... herrera has been up for 15 seconds, and flores has still ZERO trade value, and you are looking at these guys to replace an automatic 180 hits guy, with 20 stolen bases...and are you absolutely kidding me with left field?????? this site is really pissing me off & im actually embarrassed to even keep coming back here... 


daniel murphy is the best player on this team... as sad as that may sound, its true.....pay the man for being the ONLYYYYY consistent player on the field for the last 5 years and stop trying to run everyone out...im so sick of you people

jamets
jamets

@Richard Alicea Cruz is not a good player.  Be thankful the Mets didn't give him a long term deal.  Plus, he's a DH.  Not very useful in the NL.

thecasuaLGM
thecasuaLGM

@Richard Alicea 29 other teams were just as cheap until Cruz accepted a mercy contract from Baltimore. BTW, he's batting 189/260/384 in the 2nd half. If the Mets had actually signed him to that ridiculous 5yr/80M contract he wanted you would be complaining about how they wasted 18 million a year on the reverse Ike Davis. 

John Cucci
John Cucci

@Richard Alicea Dude. I love your optimism. I think your assessment is a bit short sighted, though.  I'll be extremely surprised if Harvey returns to form immediately. Flores has not proven he can consistently hit ML pitching, and he sucks at short.  Duda, may be the one who is breaking out, actually. Herrera is 20, he needs time to grow up. Lagares seems like our answer in CF, but he needs to hit a bit more.  TDA, health, health, health. I love our young pitching. 


We need legit answers, offensively and defensively, at short and in LF.  If we don't acquire BOTH of those players, then we don't compete in 2015, sorry to say.

Richard Alicea
Richard Alicea

@Richard Jones  I'd trade him know that his value is at peak level and there are teams needing a 2d baseman.  Package him with a couple of prospects for a solid power bat in the OF...this team appears to be on the cusp of contending; really like the development of Travis, Lagares, Flores, Herrera and Duda.  Move the Grandy man if they can regardless of return and let Den decker have at it in right.

jamets
jamets

@matmil Exactly.  Spend that $9 million on a SS or a LF, please.

mets74
mets74

@dukewillie Tejada hasn't played the last 5 games and has started only 7/24. I think a spot start every now and then is no cause for alarm or conspiracy theories.

theglider
theglider

He's playing Herrera and Nieuwenhuis. Why are they not part of the conspiracy too?

skaye19
skaye19

@tk2120 I couldn't agree more.  The teams hitting is terrible so lets trade our best hitter and keep Wright and Granderson and a bunch of totally unproven players.  With this strategy you set yourself up for more years of the same.  We have to add to Murphy with a couple of established players like Melky and a shortstop perhaps A Cabrera.  Hope Duda does this again because that is no guarantee and Travis and Lagares continue to improve.  The major problem is having all our money tied up in 2 players who look like they are close to the end of the road.

Karl Leopold
Karl Leopold

Willing to bet that Flores and Herrera have a higher trade value than Murphy

rico
rico

@Tarheel11 doesn't really matter about his glove. Murpjhy HITS.  If you haven't noticed it's not just the METS who don't hit for average most of baseball is suffering from no-offense. Murphy is a rare find, a 300 clutch hitter.  

joe21
joe21

You are right about moving him before FA and 4/40 for a super utility guy is insane, but he won't bring back a power bat, though he may return a prospect that can be included to add that piece. Why would you give up a power bat for Murphy's bat? Upper level prospect at best, much like Niese, Colon and Gee, but if you pile enough talent together, you may be able to get bat or live with losing one of the young arms

joe21
joe21

Ahh thanks for saving the typing

Richard Alicea
Richard Alicea

@thecasuaLGM  Please don't compare him to IKE...he's a proven power bat...at the end of the year he'll be close to 280 or 290 with another 5 or 6 long balls...that my friend is deserving of a special contract.

Richard Alicea
Richard Alicea

@thecasuaLGM  Even with that slump he's still batting over 250 with 35 bombs and 90 RBI's...this guy is a proven 300 hitter; I'd say he's deserving of a decent contract.  Look at Granderson, is that money well spent?

matmil
matmil

Or Herrara at short and Murph at second

Richard Alicea
Richard Alicea

@joe21  Murphy alone won't do it...need to add a prospect or two and possibly one of Niese or Gee; SA tried to dump Niese for Miller this past spring...a decent power bat can be obtained with the above package.

rico
rico

@Richard Alicea @thecasuaLGM He wasn't coming to the mets and nobody was expecting him to be as successful this year (in a band box) as he is.  


Usually when you get a guy after he's been busted for Roids he wilts (unless he's still juicing) 


Cruz had a great year. He'll get paid next year.



jamets
jamets

@matmil Herrera at SS is a pipe dream.  He's a 2B.

matmil
matmil

Is it tattooed on his forehead?

joe21
joe21

No, just on his prospect and stat sheet