Curtis Granderson to earn $13 million in 2014

Curtis Granderson – who the Mets reportedly agreed to sign to a four-year, $60 million contract on Friday – will earn $13 million in 2014, $16 million in 2015, $16 million in 2016, and $15 million in 2017 (Heyman).

Michael Baron, Contributor

If that’s the case, the Mets payroll is currently between $68-71 million for 2014, leaving approximate $17-20 million or so to spend on new talent this winter. The move was clearly designed to maximize payroll flexibility this winter without incredibly back or middle-loading Granderson’s deal during years he’s expected to decline. Frankly, the more flexibility the Mets have, the easier it will be to plug the many remaining holes on this roster, so this works for me…
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Sam Choi
Sam Choi

Hmmm...Choo can be had for $20M.

chasesimms
chasesimms

"Frankly, the more flexibility the Mets have, the easier it will be to plug the many remaining holes on this roster, so this works for me…"

What would we do without Baron's brilliant and in-depth analysis?! 


nym68
nym68

Let's face it the Wilpons are liars. They said over and over again that the Madoff fiasco wouldn't affect payroll. They insisted that clearing payroll this winter would lead to an increase in payroll for 2014 when they themselves let on that contending was a priority. Yet somehow after MLB pockets an extra $25m per team they go silent on how that extra income would be spent. Basically when placed into a math equation the Wilpon's are telling us this...

$25m + Santana and Bay's salaries= Granderson and Silence. I just hope this Silence guy can pitch

David Wright
David Wright

Imagine if they hadn't flushed 7.25M down the toilet on that turd Chris Young. Keep Murph, he's worth every penny of 5M in this market. If you spend it they will come to Citi.

fedupfan13
fedupfan13

Again for the Wilpon apologists....if they're not raising pAyroll this year because they don't want to hurt future teams or because they couldn't possibly spend all that money, then why is every contract deferred?

Nick P Saporito
Nick P Saporito

This NY team should have at least another 50mil. to spend.

Michael Milne
Michael Milne

Spend money to make money Wilpons, no reason mets shouldn't at least be in the 100 million range unless your lacking the funds in which case sell the team to someone else who can take this team to the next level, mets fans aren't going to citi field in 2014 unless their is a playoff type team, time to step up open that purse as far as it can go (and than go get the players who will bring fans back to citi field) and a winning attitude. Should be no cap when your team has lost for 5 seasons in a row and all the BS and excuses all leading up to what was supposed to be the turn around season of 2014 (well we are here time to make things happen, Granderson and Young aren't going to cut it, need more significant moves). Step up Wilpons (sandy needs to step up as well, be creative, be aggressive). 

supert
supert

If we didn't have this ridiculous self imposed $30M cap for the season I would be okay with bringing in Chris Young, but I wonder if even Sandy and company are now wondering how smart it was to give $7M of it to him.

mrnegative
mrnegative

There's many ways the mets can go. One route I hope they don't take is trade Murphy. I think that would be a big mistake. I read articles and opinions about trading him but people act like the mets are gonna get some big return back for him or even improve the team. So we trade one of our best hitters and try to get a shortstop?! Who exactly?! Then we slide EY to 2nd. Yeah that makes sense. EY is not a starter and we get weaker at that position. If the mets have the finances or backload the contracts I'd just sign Drew and Arroyo. Then trade Duda and some prospects for relieve and outfielder help. I'd also look to trade for Gardner to take over at CF.

Starting Lineup:

Gardner

Murphy

Wright

Granderson

Young

Davis

d'Arnaud

Drew

Starting Rotation:

Wheeler

Niese

Gee

Arroyo

Mejia

I think that team can contend. It's not great but it's not terrible either.

Peter Simon
Peter Simon

This is my first ever post, but have been reading Mets blog constantly over the past few years. I enjoy the comment section better than listening to fans rant over WFAN. Been a Mets follower since '62 and have a foul ball from Duke Snider to prove it from the Polo Grounds! One question for the fan base: Can EYJR play shortstop rather than second? That way we could keep his lead off skills in the regular lineup, which I think is key. Hate the idea of trading Murphy and would rather see Duda traded than Ike. As we once said during the 1956 presidential elections: "I like Ike!" Sort of....

nym68
nym68

Apparently using the name of the guy who claims to contribute to this site is enough to get my comments blocked. Welcome to Cuba! 

steve333
steve333

That payroll is way too low for a NY team.

Wilpon-sell the team to someone who cares about winning

ifti99
ifti99

I fail to see the point of pushing payroll into the future when in all likelihood we will need the cash then.

jacobsoshnick
jacobsoshnick

i would try to trade murph and duda for a ss. have flores and EYJ play it out for 2nd, and sign halladay/colon. maybe a bullpen guy.

then next year when harvey is back, synder is up, chris young off the books we can reevaluate and put more money in to this team when ownership sees improvement and more people in the seats this year.

yanksuck
yanksuck

Sign Stephen drew for ss and trade Murphy and Niese for encarnacion

Bill Florian
Bill Florian

How does Mike B. come off saying that leaves $16 million more to spend. Is it carved in stone that the payroll will be a disgraceful $90 million or less??? How come Mr. Baron there doesn't say how much the Yankees have left to spend??? Sounds like you are being their front man of low expectations.

MetsFan1962
MetsFan1962

Come on Sandy. . .we just need a couple of good upgrade and then we will be good to go next season. . .Good Luck at the winter meeting. Make trades. . What is dead weight to us may be upgrades to other teams.

Ron Davis
Ron Davis

i think he was very reasonable the way he gave the team some flexibilty in the first year. I hope Arroyo would do that as well if he was signed. two years at 18 million would be fair.

David Wright
David Wright

Choo actually only would cost 12.75M this year if we hadn't flushed 7.25M down the toilet on that turd Chris Young.

nym68
nym68

@chasesimms my guess is we'd all sleep better at night knowing that he's found a good recovery program that specializes in wasted brain cells

nym68
nym68

@harvey33 Hey Jeff, Matt here. Umm, I went over the last script that your assistant to the assistant to the assistant Secretary sent over and, ummmm, it says here that Chris Young is the teams greatest acquisition since Carter... ummm you meant Chris Carter, right? Also it says that I'm to sing the praises of Sandy the GM to the tune of Frosty the Snowman on the podcast so the readers get into the holiday spirit and forget that Santa Wilpon has once again delivered the Mets fans a stinking lump of donkey coal? Ok boss, but just one question: I own Metsblog, right?

dumdeeduda
dumdeeduda

The Mets have actually cut their operational loss from $70M to about $10M. If they can keep payroll steady next year and generate about as much revenue, they should turn a profit thanks to the extra TV money. Given that the Mets' owners no longer have a guaranteed income stream from their investments with Madoff, it makes sense that they are less willing to take a loss on operations and rely on the the equity appreciation of the franchise for value. As a fan, I don't like it, but it does make sense to me. As for the "debt problems" that everyone freaks out about, barring a systemic shock, like a major sovereign default or a bankruptcy by or run on a major financial institution, they will have no problem refinancing the team's debt. And, more to the point, the leverage on the team and station is only about 50% of the value of the assets. That's not fantastic for their industry, but it's not bad.

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@harvey33 i never pay for games. if a friend gets corporate seats we go occasionally. i will not pay money to an ownership i detest, one that makes mistake after mistake, gets involved in financial crimes which limits the ability to operate like a NYC team without a salary cap should. 

metfan9876
metfan9876

I wish that, in a perfect world, that was an innacurate statement and that we can spend a bit more than 30MM. Unfortunately, we do have a pathetic 30 MM budget for some reason.

Joe Wenzel
Joe Wenzel

It's good to see someone else on this blog who actually saw Kingman hit 30 homers before the All-Star break in '76 and if he hadn't injured his thumb might have broken Maris' record a full 22 years before McGwire did.  Now we can't even get a player to hit 30 homers in a full season.

supert
supert

@Peter Simon Welcome Peter.  Don't think SS is really a position you want to experiment with a 28 y/o who has never played there before on the ML level.  We've done enough damage throughout the years already playing players out of their natural positions as I'm sure you could well attest as long as you have been a fan.

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

@steve333 Some would argue that other teams have done well with a low payroll, here's the difference.  Go to the Rays or A's websites and see what a ticket costs behind the home team dugout.  Then go to the Mets site and see what theirs costs.  Ticket prices should be in proportion to the payroll of the team.  The Mets prices definitely are not.  As a fan it's not my job to make up for the ponzi scheme losses.  

supert
supert

@ifti99 Is the team payroll still going to be approx $87-90M in the future too?

nym68
nym68

@jacobsoshnick give us an example of a  well thought out trade that involves Murphy and Duda bringing the Mets back an upgrade at SS ..ready...set...GO!

Bill Florian
Bill Florian

@jacobsoshnick Yea..."more people in the seats" that you can practically count on your fingers and toes. Average attendance will sink from 26k average to 23k average. So what you want to do is give a good free agent to sign 1,000 good empty seats to sell on stub hub. He gets about $4 million a year on ticket sales, and Mets get an extra 1,000 fans into the ballpark!

Noah Baron
Noah Baron

@yanksuck Niese is really the only reliable, effective starter we have going into this season.  Wheeler has potential but  is still developing, Gee is durable but just not that great of a pitcher, Mejia is a complete wild card, and Montero and Syndergaard should start the season in the minors.

tommets
tommets

@yanksuck I would give more thought to trading Niese if Harvey didn't get hurt. We are going to need Niese this season, but if Harvey didn't get hurt I would've been all for trading Niese. Maybe 2015 we can trade Niese and Gee with someone else for a huge bat.

Jason Brandt
Jason Brandt

@Bill Florian


yeah where is MB getting 16 million from? $87 million payroll is set in stone? thats a joke we play in NY


for $100-110 mil payroll they could sign SS drew, SP carpenter/colon/arroyo, RP bailey/axford


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@metsfan611 we need more than a couple. if we are lucky granderson replaces byrd. which gets us back to where we were, but then again harvey is gone. so really it takes an overhaul not just a couple of moves imo. granderson is a sexy name and all, but i for one don;t expect more than a .250 average with 25 HRs, which is ok, but lesser than what byrd gave.

nym68
nym68

@David Wright how much would this guy who can't hit lefty pitching have cost for the other 7 years of his contract? 

fedupfan13
fedupfan13

Problem is with this much revenue....300m or so in a terrible year, they shouldn't be losing money with 90m dollar payrolls.

nym68
nym68

@ton @nym68 I tried writing an open letter to contributor boy, but it was blocked. How does a site disallow it's members from openly, and without any adult language, asking a writer of the site why we should be members of their site? Freedom of speech supposedly applies to the reader as well...or so we were taught in grade school



KMO82
KMO82

@tommets @yanksuck Exactly. Next year we should have a  rotation of Harvey, Syndergaard, and Wheeler locked in. If Mejia is healthy this year and proves he can be a starter maybe you add him to that group along with Montero if he is not traded. That leaves Niese and Gee as the guys i'd look to trade because they'd be the "oldest" and most expensive even though they have modest salaries. They should have a lot of value.  In terms of losing our only Lefty, in 2015 Matz and Fulmer should be in AAA knocking on the door as well.

David Wright
David Wright

Chris Young is simply a waste of 7.25. That $ could have been used much more wisely. EYJ in left was a better fit.

nym68
nym68

@David Wright He doesn't hit lefty's good. And nothing you said about Young explained how the Mets can afford Choo. Unless of course you believe that he'll sign for one year at $20m. That presumption is wrong on both years and cost per. Young may very well suck, but his signing has nothing to do with Choo

David Wright
David Wright

Choo does everything good and will finish with solid numbers across the board. Excellent defense with strong arm. A quality player to build with. Turd Young struggles against lefty's and righty's. He'll bat around.200 and will strike out around 200. 7.25M wasted.

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@jacobsoshnick @ton

i apologize

A.) didn't realize you included castro by name in your post; you didn't you simply said "a ss"

B) your assumption the mets will get castro is based on wishful thinking but no inside information.


until i hear the name castro mentioned by someone involved with the team, i don't think i can assume moving murphy is a good move. dude scored over 90 runsa and stole over 20 bases while driving in a healthy amount of runs in a crap lineup and did so while earning under 3 million a year.