Cubs SS Baez may be most realistic target for Mets

In a deal with the Cubs, SS Javier Baez might be the most realistic acquisition for the Mets, a source familiar with Sandy Alderson’s plans said Friday (ESPN, Aug. 15).

The Cubs had two scouts watching Noah Syndergaard‘s start earlier this month, according to a recent report by columnist Andy Martino (Daily News, Aug. 8).


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The Mets are reportedly looking to acquire either a shortstop or left fielder in trade this winter, and Baez is considered to be among the best hitting prospects in baseball, according to a recent list by MLB.com. In addition, their big-league shortstop, Starlin Castro, is hitting .285 with 12 HR and again made the All-Star team this year at just 24 years old.

Castro and Baez were in Chicago’s starting lineup Friday night against the Mets at Citi Field.

Castro has been the subject of trade rumors since Chicago acquired top SS prospect Addison Russell from Oakland in early July; after which an anonymous member of the Mets said Castro would be a perfect fit for the Mets (Daily News, July 7).


 

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“I know I can be a good player and I know a lot of teams can want me, but I’m here and I don’t want to leave here,” Castro told a gathering of New York reporters at Citi Field on Friday (Daily News, Aug. 16). “I think I can do more than this. I think I’ve got very good talent. I’m learning a lot. I know a lot more about this game, you know. I think I can keep playing and I think I can have a better season every year. I think I have my mind right and just be here every day and show who I am.”


miniMCavatarMatthew Cerrone: It was a year ago that I first heard from friends at Wrigley Field that Castro would cost at least Zack Wheeler, who had made just 10 or so big-league starts at the time of the conversation. … The point is, though, we like to talk about Alderson acquiring a ‘big bat,’ it’s going to be easier said than done. He has the pitching prospects — and young catchers — to make a quality deal. However, it’s going to be quite complicated and the competition is going to be fierce >> Read more from Aug. 12.




167 comments
Jim Michaels
Jim Michaels

I don't think the Blue Jays would trade him,but what about a deal around Encarnarcion. I know he is signed through 2015 win a team option through 2016. A package could include


Syndergaard+Plawecki+Herrera+Niese? it may cost more,because he is a great player under potential team control for the next 2 years. He also does have experience in the OF

Sergio Valdez
Sergio Valdez

Baez, Castro or whoever is available is an upgrade over the scrubs we're presently employing. It's long been established that Tejada isn't the answer and Flores is a AAAA  player who has done NOTHING since he arrived to the The Show.

Mickey Jennifer Wind
Mickey Jennifer Wind

they need pitching badly. baez also has holes in his game . not a great fielder, swings at everything.

pologround
pologround

They say that Herrera does not have the arm to play SS.....Let him play there now.....He is considered a good athlete / fielder.....Some of the best all time SS had avg arms.....Lets keep Murphy...........Herrera seems like an excellent hitter / power and avg.............Yes trade the Grandyman..........Keep all of our arms......


Romesh Gunaratnam
Romesh Gunaratnam

Well, we could have just kept Reyes -- really disgusted with the Wilpons

Erich Moeller
Erich Moeller

I would trade Noah for a good shortstop like Starlin Castro any day of the week.  The Mets need a great young shortstop.  The offseason free agents are horrible so the only way to address this is through a trade.  Mets got plenty of pitching.  I don't get the Cubs thinking you got to start with pitching prospects before position players. Chicago has zero pitching

Adam Eisenberg
Adam Eisenberg

The Cubs and any combo of Castro/Baez/Russell will appear on MetsBlog 2-3x a week between now and spring training 2015 or until they trade someone somewhere else, whichever comes first.


For reference, see Rockies 2014 Tulo/Cargo, Dodgers 2013 Kemp/Either, Arizona 2012 Upton/Kubel/Young.


The Mets will do nothing.

Rich Kluender
Rich Kluender

Why would the cubs trade a guy like him Why?..

Nicholas Vargas
Nicholas Vargas

Yankees looking for pitching, Judges for a Colon/ Montero?

Born2Fish74
Born2Fish74

"The Mets are reportedly looking to acquire either a shortstop or left fielder in trade this winter"


Reported looking either or???   Ummm they desperately need both 

zingzangzo
zingzangzo

Like the idea of Herrera coming through system to get a shot this season on Citi field with the big boys. Murphy being traded to open up a chance of saving one of our top prospects. Like Stanton as everyday right fielder. Trading Granderson for a top prospect @ aaa level to include for that deal would work for us just fine. Next season lineup:

1st base Duda/Dykstra

2nd base Herrara

Short cubs aaa top prospect

3rd Wright

Left Campbell

Center Kemp

Right Stanton

Catcher D' anaurd

Starters:

Wheeler, Harvey, Synderdaard, Gee, Colon

Releivers: Montero, Edgin, Matusaki, Familia, Mejia, Torres, Gorski, Parnell

James
James

The cubs are going to get A LOT of calls for their infielders this off season, I am not sure the Mets have what it takes to get one of them without giving up something they don't want to.  We are going to have to get a bat with $$$ instead of a huge trade and maybe also get another secondary bat via a trade.

Nicholas Vargas
Nicholas Vargas

Roster expansion, I want to see Reynolds and Puello up. Give Granderson some rest... I don't like Baez's swing enough to see the mets give up their top pitching prospect. Castro seems to be a sounder fit. I'd also like to see Sandy go after one of the Cuban outfield defectors.

Stephen Giangrande
Stephen Giangrande

I really hope we get Russel or Baez over Castro. I dont know too much about the other players but I do know that Castro has a reputation of laziness and attitude, and I really dont want to deal with another lazy lackadaisical player.

cyjabeli
cyjabeli

We can't take a chance.....Next 2 bats have to be dead on.....No more chances.....We expect David to hit, but look as well as Grandy......Can't take a chance this next time.... I'd go for 2 steady's, 2 guys you can count on.....

Brandon Hillman
Brandon Hillman

Between Tejada/Flores/Reynolds I think one can play ss. Personally I like Flores, hate Tejada and have not scene enough of Reynolds to evaluate him and wont based on stats alone. The problem with mets is Outfield and 3b. Wright has had a horrible year and Granderson has been worse. If both had put up career Avg with what they have gotten out of Duda and Murphy the team would not have been as bad as they are. LF has been murder for most of the season but I am intrigued by MDD. I would like to see if he can handle the lead off spot. If not he was no future on this team.  I would rather see Granderson traded for prospects, and try to do a three team trade sending what we get for Granderson with some of our own prospects for a legitatimate #3 hitting power outfielder. Dream guy is Stanton which was just reported yesterday to be on the market this winter for the right players. (They want a major league ready starter and position players) But it will take a lot to get him from a dvision rival. After that maybe Matt Kemp or Braun, both not ideal considering Brauns' steroid history and Kemps desire to stay in CF but both are better than Granderson offensively. 

Chris Biehl
Chris Biehl

Not too sure about trading our big time arms for Castro. ...He's not a very good defensive SS and when you are building your team around young possibly dominant starting pitching, strong defense up the middle is a must....He's racked up the errors in his 5 seasons and I do believe his dwar this year is -0.2. He's gotten the label in Chicago of being a bit of a goofball who is lazy too often..........

Dave D'Agnese
Dave D'Agnese

Baez and tulo both won't be playing ss for too much longer. Baez would eventually go to 2nd tulo maybe 1st. I'd rather Castro. Then sign tomas for lf, then the lineup is balanced

Jeff Lubatkin
Jeff Lubatkin

I'm of the mind of trading a young pitcher for a young ss and not empty out the system for an expensive, injury prone Tulo.  The Yankees and Mariners made a great baseball trade a few years ago that unfortunately hasn't worked out for either team but nonetheless is a good model.  I would also look to sign Thomas and have him flank Lagares in the OF.  As much as I like Murph, I would look to move him and bring up Herrera.  Lastly, despite his contract, I think Granderson could have value to a team that plays in a smaller ballpark as I think his production would improve.  Perhaps the Cubs would be interested and a trade involving a young pitcher and Granderson for a young ss and another prospect could get done.  The young pitcher not being Harvey, Wheeler or Thor.

whyus
whyus

Baez reminds me of Ike Davis. Strikes out way too much. Sign a guy like Jed Lowrie or JJ Hardy and Yasmani Thomas from Cuba. His contract would be similar to that of CarGo anyway and if Colon were to be traded and with CY out that should clear up enough room for a FA shortstop. Its not the best lineup out there, but its the safest to bet on when you consider Tulo and the injuries etc. The cost for hitting is just so high right now. I still don't know why we didn't trade a couple veteran pitchers for a guy like Cespedes at the deadline... anyway:


LF. Granderson

2B. Murphy

3B. Wright

RF. Tomas

1B. Duda

SS. Hardy

C. d'Arnaud

CF. Lagares 


SP. Harvey/ Wheeler/ deGrom/ Gee/ Neise

BP. Parnell/ Mejia/ Familia/ Edgin/ Black/ Torres/ 2nd LOOGY


BerryBeltran
BerryBeltran

I am going to predict that one of either Flores/Tejada/Reynolds will be at SS next season and Den Dekker will be in left field. Murphy will be traded as his contract expires after next season and Herrera will take his place. Rebuild the rebuild and keep it affordable until the Wilpons finances are better

whyus
whyus

Baez is not the answer. Ike Davis pt. 2 minus the good fielding.

whyus
whyus

@pologround I like where you're coming from, but realistically speaking, who would even consider taking Granderson and the contract that comes with him?

WoodsideNative
WoodsideNative

@Erich Moeller NS hasn't had a chance yet so I would put Montero up first to go. He's only had 3-4 chances but has failed them all. NS deserves a chance at least.

pimpninja
pimpninja

You forgot Mike Trout and Kershaw and Felix Hernandez

Gland1
Gland1

@zingzangzo This is awful all around.  I'd love to know how you traded Niese to acquire both Stanton and Kemp.  

James
James

@zingzangzo Considering you still have Wheeler/Harvey/Syndergaard, I can only imagine you somehow traded deGrom for Stanton and Kemp?  Man, can you go get a job as another team's GM, Sandy would love to trade with you.

crafalko17
crafalko17

@zingzangzo That is pretty damn funny. So much wrong with it that I can't take it seriously

joe21
joe21

Reynolds is not coming up this September because he is not on the 40 man roster and they need every spot they can get to protect players and the rule five draft. As much as they would like to see him pace major-league heading, it does not make sense to waste is spot on a player who does not get a protection. Cesar is different as he is already on 40 man, but there may be an issue about how many options day and if burning one might make him vulnerable in the future.

dannym28
dannym28

@Stephen Giangrande he'll have 1,000 hits at age 25. he can hit, he might just be lazy because he knows the cubs arent good

crafalko17
crafalko17

@Stephen Giangrande True in his past, but he is still young and sounds like he is maturing mentally as well. I just don't want to give up one of our top prospects for him. Russel is just hitting too well right now. I can't even imagine what it would take to get him. He has like 40 HRS in AAA.

crafalko17
crafalko17

@Brandon Hillman Flores can't play SS. He just doesn't have the range. He makes routine plays to his left have to look amazing because he can't get to the ball. Did you not just see him try and tag from 2nd yesterday? You need someone with great range at SS, especially if we are going to rely on our pitching staff to carry us in the future. Plus Flores isn't exactly hitting and hasn't hit really ever at the ML level, granted in a small sample.


Reynolds is interesting, but his BABIP is like .440 which is insane and he strikes out a lot. Not sold on him being an everyday SS unless he can hit for more power or improve his plate discipline. 23%K-rate is way too high unless you're hitting 30+. Still it should soon be time to give him a shot.


Granderson has hit something like .260 since the end of April and is on pace to hit over 20 HRs despite that terrible start. Plus he is a very good defensive outfielder, even with his weak arm. I would certainly go after Braun instead of Kemp given age/money/performance. 


I wonder how much Murph could bring back. Would like to see Herrera pushed to AAA and maybe the majors soon and if Murph could lessen the pitching prospect requirement to get a major bat, I'd seriously consider it.

nagel100
nagel100

@Mike Herrington if they want our top prospect then I want theirs.


noah for Russell.  no one else.


if they want to move Castro then Neise, Montero and KP.   not Noah.

crafalko17
crafalko17

@JimmyBX Since May Granderson has been living up to his contract believe it or not. Wright however is not, though he is hitting the ball well so many are dying on the track. He also seems to be getting jammed a lot with his mindset solely focused on going up the middle and to right. Still was stupid for the Wilpons to build a stadium like this which works horribly against their best hitter. He definitely needs to figure it out though.

crafalko17
crafalko17

@whyus I would still have to check in on Tulo's asking price. Not a fan of Baez, huge swing and like you said a lot of K's. I'd be okay with Castro and hitting him 1st or 2nd and picking up Tomas as well.


Grandy/Castro/Murph/Wright/Duda/Tomas/TdA/JLag.


I'd expect 1 of Niese or Gee to get traded along with Colon as well. Don't forget we have Thor too.


Harvey/Gee/Wheeler/deGrom/Thor feels pretty good.


Maybe they hold onto Colon for the first part of the season to keep another year of Thor though, in which case we have Harvey/Gee/Wheeler/Colon/deGrom with Colon being traded mid-season and Thor coming up.

elcondor
elcondor

Yeah, sounds like a plan. With a payroll around 90 Million that is the way to The reality is that no Cuban will be signed No big FA signing it would be a better blog if we recognized the realities and forget the fantasies

Erich Moeller
Erich Moeller

@James @zingzangzo


No way would I trade DeGrom,  I would trade GEE, Montero, or Niese first.  I wouldn't want Kemp to injury prone and Marlins would want a kings ransom for Stanton.

pointguard
pointguard

@crafalko17 @Brandon Hillman  murphy IS OUR BEST HITTER DESPITE HIS FLAWS.


The Mets will never be a contender spending $82mm on payroll.Trade Granderson,sign Melky

Cabrera as a free agent and trade any pitcher NOT named Harvey for Castro.Bring in another

power hitting OF short term like Byrd.

crafalko17
crafalko17

@nagel100 @Mike Herrington I'd try hard to hold onto KP. He's going to be a top 30 or so prospect next year and worth a lot more than he is now. I agree though I'd try to hold onto our top pitchers if it is for Castro as they would like to get rid of him to clear room for their other prospects. People say they are in control, but I wouldn't be so sure as I bet they don't want to block themselves either.

whyus
whyus

@crafalko17 @whyus They have a lot of options to go through. I agree we're gonna be dealing someone. We simply have too much starting pitching. You only need 5-7 guys. We have my aforementioned 5 plus Thor, Colon, Montero, Mazzoni and that's just off the top of my head. I just can't figure out who we'd trade for. None of those guys are getting a Stanton, realistically speaking we're not trading Grandy. I don't know who would take him. The Rockies are gonna completely overprice Tulo and I'd take Tomas over CarGo anyday of the week when you look at how players like Cespedes, Abreu, Puig, Chapman, Despagne etc. have almost immediately, or are on the way, rised to stardom. All these players out of Cuba have bright futures. CarGo doesn't play, his knee is now an issue so he will never be the gold glover he used to. He'd be a lefty in a lefty heavy lineup in NY and the risk to me is virtually the same in that he's played at Coors Field so you just don't know what you're gonna get, all that considering he does play in the first place. Sandy's got leverage though, but this is his last chance before I lose it with this front office haha.

whyus
whyus

@borsh13 You're 100% right about the leverage, but Sandy better not wait like last year until the most of the cards are off the table. Baez screams Ike Davis to me, the league is gonna figure him out, and quickly. We have so many chips, but the trade options available outside of Giancarlo Stanton make me a bit nervous, especially CarGo. Tulo is gonna be too overprices.


When you look at JJ Hardy, here's a guy who stays healthy, plays Gold Glove defense at shortstop, can hit for average, and has pop at the position even though this year might be a down power year for him. Grading out his tools, in my opinion he's above average to well above average in all of the 5 catagories and he comes to play everyday. I feel he gets overlooked a lot in this league due to the fact that hes played in mainly smaller markets such as Milwaukee or Minneapolis. I see him as a more proven player then Castro is and would cost much, much less when you consider both talent being given up and financial assets. But I've always been a huge fan of Hardy since his days with the Brewers so I guess I'm a little bias. Regardless, we'll see what happens, Sandy better not mess this one up.  

crafalko17
crafalko17

@David Schoenfeld @crafalko17 @Stephen Giangrande Ah right, my bad, they have a silly infield farm system.