Bartolo Colon 2 (AP)

Colon warranted 2 years, could be Opening Day starter

In case you missed it, Sandy Alderson said Bartolo Colon could be the team’s Opening Day starter, though the decision is ultimately up to Terry Collins (Hynes, Jan. 17).

The Mets signed Colon to a two-year, $20 million deal earlier this off season.

“Based on the year he had last year and the last couple of years, and based on our sense of his physical condition, the talent merited the risk,” Alderson told reporters this week (DiComo, Jan. 20).

40 comments
ac0814
ac0814

Colon, Wheeler, Niese, Gee, Mejia/Lannan/Montero

Ron Davis
Ron Davis

why does it warent that.  i liked Arroyo more .

Nick DeSilvio
Nick DeSilvio

The only # 2 he warranted was the #2 value meal at mcdonalds with a diet coke.

tommets
tommets

It should be Wheeler, Niese, or Gee in that order because there's always the possibility of Colon getting traded whether it be to open a spot for someone or not. Why would you want the guy #1 in your rotation to be traded. It would mess up the whole rotation.

hankincolo
hankincolo

Start the guy who is looking the best coming out of ST.

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

Give the ball to Niese, Gee or Wheeler. At least these guys have a track-record with the club.

Ryan Flanagan
Ryan Flanagan

I think too much stock goes into who the opening day starter is, but that said, I think it should go to Niese. For what its worth, this is Niese's team far more than Colons. Niese is the longest tenured Met in the rotation and, like last season, he should start opening day. 

Greg Lambert
Greg Lambert

Or even Wheeler....the kid can chuck it.!!!!!

mike23
mike23

He had a great year last year but why/how did that occur. They guy hasn't pitched well before that and all of a sudden was cy young caliber... not sure how that happens but if he can do that for the mets in 2014 that would be great, if he struggles and isn't as effective for whatever reason obviously this would turn into a horrible signing so there is definitely a risk at his age. Mets could have went with the younger starters but instead they once again took the less expensive way out and decided to risk signing colon and hope it works. With the money that came off the books and bad 5 or so seasons in a row you would think they would be in on Tanaka or Garza but they are either still struggling with finances or whatever.. mets need to step up the game to championship aspirations and leave the getting to .500 to the other teams, .500 should not be the expectations for this team. 

Andrew Lavan
Andrew Lavan

I agree that he warranted 2 years but I would prefer Niese get the Opening Day spot.

John Paul Cullinane
John Paul Cullinane

He just received his final paycheck........he will be 41 years old by the All-Star Break.........He will be another year removed from PED's which have helped his body in regard to breaking down...............look at the 6 years prior to last year - not that great..............


You will never see this guy pitch again after July of this year.  We paid $20 million for 6 months in a year we are clearly punting...

Hodges14
Hodges14

With Harvey injured I can't see any reason why Colon wouldn't be the opening day starter unless he gets hurt in spring training.

lindro88
lindro88

Arroyo still hasn't signed because he's probably looking for a long term deal. I like Arroyo as well, but Colon for 2 years fit our needs.

Hodges14
Hodges14

@tommets How about because he's the best pitcher they have and he gives them the best chance to win?

Eric Koeller
Eric Koeller

@tommets potentially traded Colon actually adds incentive to make him the opining day guy..adds value to day "oh, were giving you our opining day guy on a pretty good staff"

Hodges14
Hodges14

@Kenneth Meltsner Colon was one of the best pitchers in MLB in 2013.  There's no reason not to let him be the opening day starter if he's healthy.

Steven Matregrano
Steven Matregrano

@mike23 What... hes been pitching since 97' AND his career has been pretty steady.. There is not one pitcher who is great or good every season. It just does not happen and if it does not often. The fact that you put Tanaka and Garza in the same sentence shows you aren't very knowledgeable. Tanaka a guy who went undefeated in what 27 games vs. Matt Garza a guy who can't even find a team and had a couple good seasons if that and has had injury issues?


Do myself and everyone else a favor, go look up Colon's stats for real this time and not talk out of nothing and then tell me he hadn't been good before 2012.

Kevin VanTassell
Kevin VanTassell

Having Harvey, Wheeler, Niese, Gee, Mejia, Syndergaard, and Montero the Mets have plenty of good and affordable starters, and the years and money pitchers like Tanaka and Garza would get can be better spent on hitters. Colon for two years makes the same sense signing Drew for two years does, so hopefully they can.

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

@John Paul CullinaneI have this horrible feeling that you are right. No way are we getting two solid years from this guy. And if Freddie Garcia comes on board I will become a Royals fan.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@John Paul Cullinane Talk about the glass half empty.  His last 3 years have ranged between great, to good to servicable.  I'm sure you'd also be one of the same people whining the team didn't do anything if they didn't sign hin.

Hodges14
Hodges14

@John Paul Cullinane How do you know he's removed from PEDs hahaha?  Apparently the tests the MLB gives don't catch the guys on PEDs.

mike23
mike23

yeah no sure what happened from 2006-2010 but 2011 w/ yankees he was decent and 2012 was another decent year but wow 2013 cy young caliber, not sure how or where that came from. 

John Paul Cullinane
John Paul Cullinane

@Kenneth Meltsner@John Paul CullinaneBelieve me, it's not that I am a 100% pessimistic Mets fan.  That is NOT the case.  I am thrilled with the signing of Granderson and I really like the Lannan signing though it may not be a big one.  I don't mind Chris Young on this team, but I DO mind him on this team as a corner outfielder and at that $7+ million/year price tag.  The only signing I really hate is Colon.

I would have rather had an Arroyo if we were going with an older guy.


I am 100% fine with Ike at 1B and I think he can turn it around and I believe they should trade or cut Duda.


Lagares was a nice story last year and is a good defender, but if he's your starter, your team isn't very good.


I want Young in CF - now all of a sudden I can digest that price tag - and a REAL clean-up hitter at the other corner.


EYJ is a 4th outfielder and a pinch runner/hitter...he is nothing more and just because he won a base stealing title doesn't mean he's a starter.


I want Drew or Lowrie at Short.  I'd go Drew for 3 years because we don't have to trade anything (3rd round draft pick - who cares?) and the fact that Gavin C won't be ready for 3 years anyway.

...........This really isn't too much to ask for and it only brings the payroll to $100 million.  18 teams had higher payrolls than us in 2013 and after you project bench salaries and Duda's arbitration, the Mets are at $86 million, thus lowering payroll again (by $2 million)........It's not a huge surprise that 3 of the 4 teams in the NLCS/ALCS last year were top 5 in payrolls.  That 4th team?  Saint Louis at $117 million who ranked 11th highest.............and the Mets...................sit at $86 million.............sad.

John Paul Cullinane
John Paul Cullinane

@BringBackDaveTelghe@John Paul CullinaneAlso, about signings......I AM upset with this off-season.  Why spend money on Granderson, Young, and Colon if you are clearly punting this season???  You might as well not have signed anyone.  Currently this team will be +/- 2 games from last year's 74 win total.  They haven't done anything to actually move the needle.  So, this 75% Sandy approval rating makes me want to throw up.


They still need a cleanup hitter

They still need a shortstop

They still need bullpen help

They still need bench help and maybe another 5th/6th starter on a Minor League contract


...without the first two, this team is destined for another battle for 3rd or 4th place in our division and 75 wins.


Can they still possibly do this?  Yes.  but it would cost money and dare I say...reach a $100 million pay roll??????? GASP!  Unthinkable yet we will in the New York Market.  I don't want to hear Sandy's BS anymore and talking backwards...


Sign Drew.  I don't want to hear "Well, we didn't want to go 2-3 years..."  Gavin C. will be ready for a cup-of-coffee in 2-3 years, so this is perfect.  Shut up, and sidn him for 3 years and $11 million a year.


Bullpen help...open up your purses for $4 million to split between two legit 7th/8th inning guys.  It's not a lot of $$$ for a crucial bridge to the 9th inning.


Bullpen...I don't like Cruz, so this probably comes by way of trade and taking on a large chunk of a contract.  We see post after post about how "good" are farm system is, yet nobody is coming to us with trades.  Trade Montero/Nimmo/Lagares or EYJ for an outfield back and move Young to CF.



God forbid....$100 million payroll...How much does it cost for a family of 4 to park, buy tix to the game, have 4 hotdogs, 4 sodas, 2 peanuts, and 2 cracker jacks...dare I ask that 2 sodas be upgraded to beer for mom and dad.  What if little Timmy asks for a program?  The Wilpons want to squeeze every penny out of fans but won't spend $100 Million.  I don't want to hear this whole, "They gave Sandy a blank checkbook and are letting him do what he wants, but Sandy is being fiscally smart...." as this is BS that Sandy wants you to believe.


...Colon is a joke and a smokescreen by Sandy to make you think the glass is half full.

John Paul Cullinane
John Paul Cullinane

@BringBackDaveTelghe@John Paul Cullinane This guy is the prime example of someone who is about to breakdown.  He made the last paycheck that he can take home to the Dominican Republic and he has nothing else to play for.....He's 41.....He's fat.....he hasn't pitched 30 games in the prior 6 years.....His 6 year prior ERA is 4.39 which is nothing special.....Do you really think that if he's not on juice he will make it past July??

Hodges14
Hodges14

@mike23 after 2010 he had some kind of procedure on his shoulder or arm and then he got some PEDs and re-started his career.

Steven Matregrano
Steven Matregrano

@John Paul Cullinane @Kenneth Meltsner See this is what I agree with basically everything you said. Except C Young is playing CF and EY is LF and Granderson is in RF. Colon is better than Arroyo and proved it last year in the AL by winning 18 games lol Also if we signed Drew to 3 years and he gets hurt for half of that time, then what? We are back to Tejada... The Mets don't want another bad contract via injury or under production. I don't blame them for being hesitant especially since we JUST got out of that mess, why get ourselves back into it?

Steven Matregrano
Steven Matregrano

@John Paul Cullinane @Steven Matregrano @Hodges14 @BringBackDaveTelghe How am I missing the point? Grandersons numbers will be maybe 5-10 HRs less than what he had as a Yankee. You forget the guy can still hit the ball 360 feet down the right field side and also plays half the games away. "NO creativity from Sandy" Please since you're a General Manager in the MLB tell me what that means? Hes in the running for GM of the year. How could you be so blind? He signed C Young, Granderson and Colon all pretty good signings. He got some much needed young relief help that are also firearms. He traded Dickey for d'Arnaud and Syndergaard and got Wheeler for Beltran. 

STOP SAYING GRANDERSON WILL BE THE NEW BYRD

IF ANYTHING CYOUNG WILL BE THE NEW BYRD 

Hes on a 1 year deal trying to gain some value and turn it around just like Byrd was on a minor league deal

John Paul Cullinane
John Paul Cullinane

@Steven Matregrano@Hodges14@John Paul Cullinane@BringBackDaveTelgheI just have to shake my head as you're missing the point.  This team, as constructed, is a 75 win team.  They have done nothing to move the needle.  There has been NO creativity from Sandy...none.  Signing Granderson was just giving him the money and years he wanted.  Nobody was going to give Colon 2 years...and Young got ridiculous money.  Also, if you read, I like the Granderson signing but he is NOT NOT NOT a clean-up hitter and at Citi, he will have the exact same production line that Byrd gave last year...which is fine...but it's just a replacement.  Without a SS and a cleanup hitter, we're looking at 75 wins again.

John Paul Cullinane
John Paul Cullinane

@BringBackDaveTelghe@John Paul CullinaneYou only need between $100-$110 million to be legitimately competitive.  I would be very happy if they added Drew and made a trade (taking on salary) for a legit clean up hitter.  They actually would be a fun team to watch and only around $100 million still...

Hodges14
Hodges14

@Steven Matregrano @Hodges14 @John Paul Cullinane @BringBackDaveTelghe  


Byrd $700K gamble. CYoung $7M gamble. For a team as broke as the Mets it's a bad gamble. Also factor this in... Chris Young has never had a .800 OPS or better season in his career. Byrd has had 4 such seasons.


They both played the majority of their careers in hitters ballparks. Byrd was a better gamble than Chris Young.

Steven Matregrano
Steven Matregrano

@Hodges14 @John Paul Cullinane @BringBackDaveTelghe But when we signed Marlon Byrd I bet people said What the heck while scratching their heads.. and look how he turned out. CYoung over all is a better play than Byrd, so if he bounces back by playing full time, he could go back to the all-star that he was in Arizona 

Steven Matregrano
Steven Matregrano

@John Paul Cullinane @BringBackDaveTelgheWhat? if we didn't sign Granderson, Colon, and C Young, then tell myself and everyone else WHO we should have signed.. Yeah you want to outbid the Yankees for Ellsbury? or give 240MM to Choo? Good luck with that. The signings we did were perfect in the sense of we now have a legit major league outfield and our lineup is steadier. I agree we could use Drew on a 2 year deal or less. If we go more we risk (a very high risk) of getting another bad contract due to injury or no production. Its one thing to play at a major league level. It's another to play in NY. Granderson can play in NY. First off, our bullpen isn't bad at all outside of another veteran signing or two... so using that as a "need" isn't really accurate because we have Edgin, Rice, Reid, Black, Parnell, Gonzalez, Torres, and Familia. 


*We have a clean up hitter to protect Wright in Granderson*

*Tejada can hold over SS if we don't sign Drew*

*See above for bullpen*

*I agree bench help is needed but to a small extent.. maybe one guy or two*

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@John Paul Cullinane @BringBackDaveTelghe This team wasn't going from 70 wins to 95 wins in an offseason.  The team wasn't going to build the payroll back up to the $150M level in one offseason especially considering the level of players that were out there.  I've got no problem with the team adding the pieces they did, but in no way should they be done.  Adding Drew and one more hitter to this lineup really is necessary along with bullpen help and some bench help as both are still very thin.