Chris Young in leadoff spot, Campbell hits clean up, Wilmer at 2B

Chris Young will hit leadoff Thursday, in a lineup that also features Eric Campbell, Andrew Brown and Wilmer Flores, all of whom were playing for Triple-A Las Vegas less than a month ago…


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Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

I’m not usually the type to get worked up over lineup construction, but even I’m irritated by this one. I get batting Campbell and Brown in the middle of the order, that’s fine. I get using Flores at second, that’s totally fine. But, I do not understand giving the lineup’s least productive hitter the most at bats during the game. To me, that’s the most important thing about a lineup, the first guy hits the most, the second guy hits the second most, and so on. I’m all for ‘getting him going,’ but the Mets have lost two in a row and I can’t see how batting Young the most times in the game help stop that. I hope I’m wrong…




91 comments
ryan567
ryan567

the mets are batting chris young leadoff tonight because he is african-american, plain and simple. while the a's and yankees are thinking about defensive advantages and platoons, the mets are thinking about how "exciting" it is to see african-american players who otherwise shouldn't be in the majors like chris young and eric young jr. bat leadoff.  they think it is "exciting". this is the ugly truth about this management.  not too intelligent

MetfaninTX
MetfaninTX

@matthewcerrone @Mets if you do what you always have done, you will get what you always got. Nothing wrong with trying to shake it up a bit

George Kirchmann
George Kirchmann

Why isn't DenDecker playing? He was brought up to replace Lagares. Play him everyday to see if he can show he deserves a place on the roster.

Robert Nolan
Robert Nolan

TC never rests anyone, then tries to do it all at once instead of periodically. One of many reasons I cannot stand him.

Justin Cosgrove
Justin Cosgrove

They'll be lucky to load the bases and strand them once tonight. 

monstah
monstah

I hope this freakish line-up scores TONS OF RUNS for DeGrom's first major league win.

mrmet4mvp
mrmet4mvp

The ONLY player in the Mets' lineup who is hitting over .295 is the PITCHER... just let that sink in.


And the Mets are starting the same amount of hitters tonight hitting BELOW .200 as they are starting guys hitting OVER .245 (again, one of whom is the PITCHER).

Not4Nutten
Not4Nutten

Interesting, the first 3 batters lead the team in strikeouts!

hankypanky
hankypanky

How weird is this? Is TC sending a message to Alderson?

theglider
theglider

Chris Young leading off? Why not? We don't have a lead off hitter anyway.

There is no hitting talent on this team. Accept that. There's a lefty pitching so maybe some of our righties will hit a little.

Not4Nutten
Not4Nutten

Terry can not be accused of trying everything! Nothing else is working! Sandy is not giving him any players to work with! We need a guy like Puig or Stanton!

Jerry Colfer
Jerry Colfer

I could see putting TDA up first. He has upside and is a good base runner if he gets on, but this..this??

Maybe it is TC telling Alderson that we have neitherpower or a leadoff hitter..."look what you gave me!"...or incredible arrogance and middle finger to the fans.

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

While we're on the subject, Interstate 89 is a beautiful stretch of highway that runs from Concord, New Hampshire to Burlington, Vermont.  It's particularly lovely in the fall when the leaves turn.  It's also d'Arnaud's batting average, but that's another story.  

archer41
archer41

Should have put TDA in the spot so they could have all of the busts in the top 3 slots.  This team is a joke.  

C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

didn't the Mets score in the 1st inning  the other day with CY in the lead off spot?  No, he shouldn't be in the lead off spot, but with both Lagares and EY on the DL , who do you put there?  The real issue is this team does not have a legitimate ML level lead off guy.  I'm at the point where I'd rather Sandy go out and sign Juan Pierre.  Too bad he can't throw more than 40 feet

Aaron Robert Gusthov
Aaron Robert Gusthov

Poor DeGrom.....pitching so well and has had no support yet and they roll out this lineup which would struggle to score runs in a AAA game.  They might put up 10 with these scrubs because it is the Cubs but wow, worst lineup I've  seen in a while.  Should have had DeGrom leadoff, he makes much better contact than Young.

Nick Barbu
Nick Barbu

Rather have deGrom leading off!!

Michael Milne
Michael Milne

Wilpons/Sandy, how about getting Mets legit offensive talent sooner rather than later.

John Ericson
John Ericson

You're not wrong.  This is a ridiculous lineup. But, that being said, every time Granderson is batting cleanup it's a mess.  He's been awful, Young is awful.   They will miss Murphy for sure.  

mags328
mags328

The idea that the leadoff hit has the most at bats is overstated, imo. It really depends on who has the final at bat for the Mets. If the last at bat goes to the 7th hitter, for example, then the leadoff hitter did not have more at bats than anyone else save for the 8th hitter. It's not like the leadoff hitter is going to have all these extra at bats that he wouldn't have had otherwise. Over the course of the year it may add up, but for a single game, I don't think that's an issue. 


The real issue, imo, is simply that a low on base guy is setting the table. 

mingo
mingo

Horrible. Quit the CY experiment. He has proven a failure. Cut him, admit the mistake and move on.

gpopper
gpopper

What's not to understand about this lineup, Collins did it. Easy stuff.

Ben Rafelson
Ben Rafelson

In a vacuum, i'm actually not against this lineup. But considering they're risking getting swept by the worst team in the bigs...i dunno what they are thinking.


Here's why it wouldn't be terrible in other circumstances:


1) Batting Young First - I'm fine with this. Eat up those ABs he was "promised" and, when/if he doesn't deliver, cut him when he can't argue that he wasn't given every opportunity. Plus side: Sheer randomness and power of change COULD (theoretically) spark something.

2) I like batting Grandy 2nd

3) cambell/brown as 3/4 - it's an interesting idea. slot in guys who the other team doesn't have as complete a scouting package in an effort to put the opposing pitcher at a disadvantage. Of course, there is a reason these guys aren't already every day MLB players. Major flaw: wasn't one of the most important goals for the offseason to get someone to protect wright?


With all that said though, something has got to give, and soon. They are pushing this fan base to the breaking point...

theglider
theglider

Actually Lagares, Eric Young and Duda have more strikeouts than Chris Young.

theglider
theglider

I think it's more of a lack of talent. What else is there? Who else can bat lead off?

TheJMan
TheJMan

You're probably right

But it's a bitter pill to swallow

Having this low OBP bust at top of the lineup is like getting it all thrown in our faces

TheJMan
TheJMan

I'd put Sandy there ....

William O'Sullivan
William O'Sullivan

@mags328 Over the course of the season, the #1 spot is likely to get 18 more plate appearances than the #2 spot (162 divided by 9), the #2 spot 18 more plate appearances than the #3 spot, etc., all the way down.

When the worst hitter in a lineup is rewarded with the #2 spot (as sometimes happens, on the idiotic grounds that he is capable of advancing a runner by slapping a grounder to second base) instead of the #8, that means the team is giving him more than 100 plate appearances than necessary. 

Absolute lunacy, as is giving Chris Young the #1 spot in tonight's lineup.  Or any spot.  Any night.

1harris1
1harris1

Ha! I actually think this lineup is going to score a bunch of runs tonight. That's how baseball works sometimes

theglider
theglider

I agree. But who else is there? We have no base stealers and no one gets on base. So what are the choices?

Jerry Colfer
Jerry Colfer

Yeah, probably right on that one. My other option was managerial insanity.

TheJMan
TheJMan

Tonight? I would put Tejada there.

He's done it before and is hitting better than CY for sure