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Carlos Torres says walks, not HRs, are his problem

In the 13th inning Thursday, Mets reliever Carlos Torres walked the leadoff man, Ian Desmond, then surrendered a walk-off, two-run home run to Bryce Harper.

Torres, 26, has given up eight earned runs, including five home runs, in his last eight innings pitched spanning seven appearances.

“He’s just having a tough time keeping it in the park,” Terry Collins said after Thursday’s loss.

Torres walked just 1.77 batters per nine innings in 33 appearances last season for the Mets.

“Realistically, I don’t think the hits are as much of a problem as the walks,” Torres said (ESPN, Aug. 8). “I think that’s the bigger problem than the hits themselves. Nonetheless the hit cost us the game today. The team played extremely well. They did everything they could do for 12 innings. I didn’t give them a chance to make a play.”

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

Hey, here’s a thought, Terry, maybe Torres is burned out from being used every other day? Just a thought. He leads the league in relief appearances this season, and pitched in nearly half of the games he was able to enter last year.

Anyway, Torres is right, he has been walking people at a higher rate over the last seven appearances. However, that has been a problem for him all season. Torres was averaging three walks per nine innings prior to mid-July, now four or so since. In fact, he walked three batters during the first two games of this season and we all, myself included, dismissed it as uncharacteristic of Torres because of how few people he walked in 2013. Turns out, perhaps that first series was a tale of things to come, because bases-on-balls have been an issue for him all year. The difference between this past few weeks, compared to the previous three months, is that he’s giving up a terrifying number of home runs all with men on base.




26 comments
mesmo
mesmo

Umm... I thought those things where the ball flies over the fence were called "home runs", not walks...

But, hey, what do I know? Torres is the professional.

adenzeno
adenzeno

WHAT?? TC Burning up a pitcher??NEVER!...

triviaace
triviaace

That's the Alderson-Collins way...use your bullpen untill they're burned out then toss them on the junk pile.  They did it in the past and will continue to do so as long as the idiot Wilpons keep them under contract.  They have got to go!

stage52
stage52

I really think that Torres who I really like has not been  quite right since that little back complaint that kept him out of just a few games.  Since then he has not been  as accurate as he was before that and has been pitching around the middle of the plate to much.  I still like his ability to pitch several days in a row. Those kind of pitchers are hard to come by  and you need to be careful of not over using him which Collin's tends to do when your on his go to list.

Jayson Love
Jayson Love

They are both his problem.  he had a nice little run for a year plus but there's a reason he has bounced around MLB. 

bruster
bruster

OK so don't walk the batter yesterday and we lose by 1 run. Oh yeah that feels much better. Anyway with the offense so anemic yesterday did it really matter ?

Stephen Henry
Stephen Henry

The is being on the roster . He sucks !!!!!!!

sylow59
sylow59

" He leads the league in relief appearances this season,"

He's 22nd in the NL in relief appearances - AND he's 2nd on the Mets.  Hey, heres's a thought, Matt, try getting your facts right.

1craigswan
1craigswan

The walks and home runs are a product of being used so much. They should give a few more innings to Carlyle so that we don't make Torres into another Feliciano. 

metfaninva
metfaninva

The 2014 Scott Rice Award goes to ..........Carlos Torres.

in 2015 it will be.........................another reason TC has to go (over manages/over uses/abuses the bullpen).

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

He's given ip 9 HR this year and 15!! last year in 86 innings.

It's amazing his era isn't much higher.  Complaining about the worst pitcher in the pen is like complaining about the 3rd string catcher.  It really doesn't matter....until you have to use them.

By the time we're a good team it's the fringe guys like this that should be nowhere near the team.

Bob Burket
Bob Burket

It wasn't that bad a pitch that Harper hit out. Torres or anyone else in the BP wouldn't be used as much if the offense wasn't so offensive. Get some people who can drive in some runs. degrom wasn't at his best an still could have won. SMH! Yeah sign Alderson up for another hitch.

Steven Molello
Steven Molello

From mediocre talent comes mediocre results..couple of good games couple of bad. This is what is so maddening about the Mets. They keep expecting superior results from mediocre to inferior talent. It's not fair to the players or fans.

Michael Suriel
Michael Suriel

Has anybody realized that, every season, there is a Mets reliever who is near the league lead in appearances? Remember when Feliciano lead the league for like 3 years straight? What is with these Mets managers and overusing people.

Victor Perez
Victor Perez

At the start of the season he was overused by collins and now it's caught up to him. Collins use of the bullpen has a D grade.

BerryBeltran
BerryBeltran

Or maybe if the offense was not so anemic and inconsistent or EY doesn't cut in front of Lagares and then nonchalant the throw...maybe the Mets win the game 3-2.


A lot needs to happen before this team can be labeled a contender....


Mike Herrington
Mike Herrington

Yes Torres is being overused and overexposed.


But if you look at how he was being used all season, he comes in as a mop up guy. He has not been used much in games when Mets are ahead and when he has, he has not done well. So if the Mets were ahead in more games, Torres would pitch much less.


Chances he even makes the club next season are slim as many young players are going to push this guy off the roster. His mop up's I hope will not be needed as much next season.

Tormented Mets Fan
Tormented Mets Fan

Well when you have a rubber arm after being used like a toy for two years that's what happens. This is why I don't agree with Terry's use of the bullpen. If they throw 1 pitch and get a batter out, then he's done. And here comes carlos Torres. Well, why? I can understand for situational reasons, but if you're a pitcher in Major League Baseball, you better be damn sure you can get guys out regardless what side of the plate they're standing on.

Remember Pedro Feliciano? One of my favorites, then he got abused and his velocity dipped.

Greg Dee
Greg Dee

When you can't find the plate then are forced to throw down the middle home runs can become a problem...

mesmo
mesmo

Anyway, shut him down for a good, long rest and just maybe he won't need Tommy John surgery...

Thanks, Terry!! Great job!

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

He leads the league in appearances in which he...  gives up walk off game-winning homers given up in the 13th inning on Thursdays in games started before 1PM.  You must have read it wrong.

Michael Jacoutot
Michael Jacoutot

@metfaninva 10 appearances in the last 30 days with 12IP.  I don't think he has abused this guy. He's just not that good.  

Steven Molello
Steven Molello

@Michael Suriel The equation is fairly simple…for years the Mets bullpen was awful. They would find one guy who was mediocre to good and that was their only option if they didn't want some bozo coming in, walking two guys, hitting one and throwing a wild pitch.