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Carlos Torres literally beat himself up last night

Mets reliever Carlos Torres literally punched himself after being charged with four runs in the 13th inning during Thursday’s 5-1 loss to the Brewers >> Watch here.

Torres let runners reach second and third an inning earlier, but got out of the jam.

He returned the following inning after a 3-minute rain delay, but, with the game still tied, he surrendered a two-run home run Brewers C Jonathan Lucroy, which was followed by two more runs off three hits and a walk.




54 comments
gpopper
gpopper

If Torres is going to beat on someone, it should be Collins for over using him and probably on the way to destroying his arm. It wasn't on Torres that they lost, it was on the non-existent offense of the Mets. They are pathetic and should be completely ashamed of themselves.

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

Not Torres's fault..if we could only score some runs!

nhmetsfan
nhmetsfan

I think Torres has been overused. The health and long term wellfare of good pitchers is more important than a given game, especially when your teams biggest goal is to come in 4th. He had been overused  prior to last night.

It is interesting that the blogosphere seems to overwhelmingly support Torres here. Kind of unusual for us wolves.  

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

Torres was not directly involved in the three minute rain delay. The narrative is confused. 


Torres is overused and was left in too long -- Ron Darling mentioned how he was done -- and should have been removed once the score was 3-1, which in effect ended the game. I guess maybe no one was warmed enough though they probably would have tried to stretch him either way.


I don't blame him for running out of steam in his second inning of work any more than I blame Recker for getting himself thrown out of the game (different situation but Ron said "can't get thrown out there").  I almost don't blame Flores for not getting the run home. After all, the Brewers couldn't do it the first time either. Do blame the team as a whole the last inning futility with men on base. 

rodd
rodd

Time to start trading key players, It doesn't matter any more, the mets can't hit.

Dana Smith
Dana Smith

Torres gets hung out to dry all the time. Why? You can blame Terry, but the Mets offense is the biggest culprit for these things.

Doubleday
Doubleday

Look, someone on the Mets can hit!


Things might have been different if Collins hadn't wasted Edgin, using him to throw just one pitch.

Not4Nutten
Not4Nutten

I feel for the guy, but it happens!

rico
rico

the only met hits of note last night was the long reliever punching himself in the face

hashburry
hashburry

Why was Watthen smiling when he went out to the mound as the Mets were coughing up another game?

robby
robby

i blame tc for this.  he has mismanaged Torres to the extent that he's burnt out.  Just because Torres says he wants to pitch everyday doesen't mean he has to.  Poor managerial skills 

bruster
bruster

Carlos thank you for giving it your all when you've been called upon to pitch. Don't beat yourself up bro there's plenty of other people in that organization the need a beating !

theglider
theglider

So the question is, if not Torres then who? What other pitcher was available?

Bob Burket
Bob Burket

What I would like to see is a guy like David Wright just go off on an umpire and just go ape $#IT. Throw a bat or equipment after the ejection. I think it would mean something and maybe wake the team up. Yeah he would get a suspension but it might pay off in the long run. At least it would be more entertaining than what we have to watch now.

Brad Houser
Brad Houser

Get Collins out before he ends up ruining guys like Familia, Black, Germen and Mejia with overuse. Torres is on pace for 86 games and 100 innings. Ridiculous.

Bob Burket
Bob Burket

The man and guys like Harvey  care. It's a shame no one else  gives a crap to do anything about it.

Steven G
Steven G

I hate to see this, because Torres really has been a hero for this team, just going out there day after day and getting it done. Having said that, I appreciate the fact that he got mad, just like I appreciate that Recker got furious (regardless of his judgment) after that horrible call by Hernandez. These guys need to get mad. Failing to get the job done should anger them, and that anger should make them stronger and tougher the next time around.

msanta031
msanta031

Torres should of gone into the dugout and instead of hitting himself in the head, put Terry Collins in a headlock and bash away. 

Rick Terry
Rick Terry

This is what happens when a guy is asked to pitch every single day. Torres threw 1.2 innings last night, in case anyone's forgotten. 

JoMama
JoMama

You knew with the lineup TC/Sandy put out there we had no chance. Jonny and the pen kept us in it, bats lost it for us. What are we, 6 for 26 with the bases loaded? WTF. Heads better roll...

Paul Duffy
Paul Duffy

Finally a Mets player displays what its actually like in the life of a Met fan.

Manny Montes
Manny Montes

TC is going to ruin Carlos Torres by the Allstar break

Barbara Burns Re
Barbara Burns Re

I completely agree. I would love to see Collins fired. I don't blame him completely for the season, but his managing is atrocious! Last night was completely unacceptable to leave Torres in the game. He was fatiguing and I was livid he wasn't pulled. The loss had nothing to do with Torres!

gpopper
gpopper

Because the fans see it for what it is, terrible managing on Collins part and no offense on the players part. Torres deserves better, he has been a workhorse for the team and has been abused by Collins. A shame Torres would beat on himself. It shows you how great a competitor he truly is.

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

@Dana Smith He has a rubber arm and they don't have many options plus have lots of innings to fill.  Dice-K probably would get some of the work there but he's a starter now. Torres is also to be blunt cheap.

artie412
artie412

@Dana Smith Agree totally. If anyone thinks that given our lame offense, Wally Backman will make a significant difference, pass me that crack pipe.

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

@Doubleday If Meija wasn't hurt, they could have saved him too. Edgin is a guy you toss out a batter at a time especially with Rice no longer around. That way you can use him more.

Michael Frias
Michael Frias

@Doubleday  He's a lefty specialists.  It's not like the Mets are the only team that plays the Lefty vs Lefty cat n mouse game in the Majors.

Michael Frias
Michael Frias

@robby  Really?  TC was the one that failed to drive in the winning run from 2nd base in the 9th, 10th, AND 11th inning last night?

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

@theglider Guess Black was overused and Evland was the day before too, so that's why they tried to stretch Torres. 

imissshea
imissshea

@Steven G I agree with you, but at the end of the day, anger and toughness doesn't score runs. Talent does. This team has very little of it on the offense side of the ball. If they get angry and tough, then they will be angry, tough and untalented.

Michael Frias
Michael Frias

@artie412  It seems like every game is a race to 4 runs.  If they get to 4 or more, they win, if they give up 4 or more, they lose.  Win or Loss, there have been few lopsided games this season, which I think makes it even more frustrating. 

Seems like every night there's at least 2 at bats where a hit would change the entire game, and they're just not getting that hit.

And I don't think hiring Wally Backman will make them get that hit.  It seems as simple as them just needing better players in the lineup.

I, personally, blame Sandy more than TC.  But if Sandy's truly hamstrung by the Wilpon's budget, than how much of the blame does Sandy really deserve?

Bob Burket
Bob Burket

@Joe Paulson @Bob Burket  Yeah he cares that he got called out on strikes. He did get hosed but all he could do was walk back to the dugout after his ejection. Shoulda swung the bat.