Can Mets take ownership of NY from the Yankees?

The Mets are again in position to take ownership of New York from the Yankees, argues columnist Joel Sherman.


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“It is hard to ignore the trend lines,” says Sherman, who lists Travis d’Arnaud, Lucas Duda and a strong farm system rich in pitching as reasons to believe in the Mets >> Read more in the New York Post.




157 comments
crimsondad
crimsondad

It can't happen with this ownership group in place. Until they commit to spend some dollars to improve the club it's all wishful thinking.



Darrell Smith
Darrell Smith

Not with these Owners and not with these Mets.

JasonMiles
JasonMiles

NO-So many new yankee fans over the last 15 years. The Mets should just hope to get back there "lost" fans

Mark Gunn
Mark Gunn

Hope springs eternal. For us mets fans anyway.

Not4Nutten
Not4Nutten

Better Management , better baseball, Papa Yanks!

Abe Smith
Abe Smith

slow news day??? to bring this crap up,, we already know the mets run this town

Dante Puzzuoli
Dante Puzzuoli

That'll take 15 years of great baseball... something we wont ever have under the ownership we currently posess

Tormented Mets Fan
Tormented Mets Fan

Well the Yankees are trending downward yeah, but we all know they're gonna buy their way back to the pinnacle. And no we can't win the town over just because me might have a better record than them for 1 year. We need to string some playoff appearances together then revisit this

Greg Cavanaugh
Greg Cavanaugh

Do you think the biggest joke in baseball history... will surpass The Greatest team in American history? GET A LIFE Met fans!!!!!

Jay Cross
Jay Cross

I'd love to think it's possible. Here's my doubt: the Yankees are still an absolute financial juggernaut, with owners who are psychotically obsessed with winning. 

Eventually, the TV rights bubble is going to burst. It has to. When it does, teams will go back to competing with their market-based revenues. The Mets are a small-market team in a big-market city now. So it wont do us any good at least relative to the NYY.

Maybe the Mets can steal the headlines for a few years, but I don't see them ever supplanting the Yankees in this city again. Too much inertia to overcome. 

kefhrny17
kefhrny17

25 more rings and then we can talk... Actually, get to .500 and we can talk...

Steven Molello
Steven Molello

Somehow our owners always seem to figure out ways to screw things up. I'm with the folks on this board that say seeing is believing. Let's see if ownership is committed to anything more than mediocrity. Thus far from Sandy's mouth I've heard a combination of the team can win 90 games to based on run differential we should be a .500 club.


Which one is it?

Jack Fitzpatrick
Jack Fitzpatrick

Yankee fans have always been front runners. When we go past the Yankees we won't even wave.

Born2Fish74
Born2Fish74

The Yankmee's way of building a roster has come back to bite them, other teams are signing their core players before they reach free agency and it's apparent that the Yankmee's lack the proper scouting and patience with their farm systems to build a new core with kids. 


If SA makes the proper moves ( I think LF power bat and SS are needed) the Mets could set themselves up for a long sustained run of winning and therefore retake NY as they had it back in the 80's


If i'm SA I would be very aggressive during this trade deadline to get a young SS with a slick glove and better bat then Tejada and a power bat for LF.  i would be open to trading a package of players from among (Colon, and Murphy definitely) and 2 of( Niese, Gee or Montero) and Plawecki now that TDA is looking good.


This would free up 2nd for Herrera long term ( Campbell in for the short term) and $ 

wilpondscm
wilpondscm

going to take years of winning. i have my doubt the wilpons can get that done for 1 year, let alone several.

Steven Glansberg
Steven Glansberg

I don't think its far fetched.. yankees are clearly hurting from all the long term contracts they give out to 30 plus players that never pan out, and the mets have a young stable of talent about to burst.. If the wilpons would just get their head of of their asses and invest to complement this young talent we would be a very good team soon (Next year).. Yankees have a ton of issues with no farm system

Doubleday
Doubleday

Yes, it's all Lucas.  You go, you big, thick farm boy.

cactus
cactus

CAN YOU HAVE A .500 SEASON FIRST??!?!?

hankincolo
hankincolo

The sun is setting on the Yankee core 4, the last of them will hold up his right arm (and the game, for the last time, until his lordship is ready) in the batters box during game 162, His LAST game because the Spanks are NOT going to the playoffs.

ken1010
ken1010

Jeff, read the article.  Think about how much money you can make through ticket sales, tv ratings, merchandise, etc. if the Mets take over the town.  

Now go out and spend some money/trade for a quality left fielder and shortstop to get it done.  

Ron W. Davis
Ron W. Davis

i am as much a die hard as any. But we got to win a division or higher then a better record in 2014 and we are not there yet. Neither team here has room to be proud yet. sorry i am not trying to be pestimisic but a realist

hankincolo
hankincolo

Answer: Yes, yes, yes!!!!!!!!!! It'll be the 80's all over again, except hopefully, without the drugs and drinking that stunted two bright young careers.

3and2
3and2

I so wished that they had signed Cano. But,... you know the storyline. What would've be the story now with Grandy and Robbie on this side of the fence. While it was a risk, the rewards were really high as well. That is in the field and off the field in terms of tickets sales and additional revenue.  Look how well the Mariners are doing and they weren't any better than the Mets. Anyways, time to move forward and we're finally seeing some light at the end of the tunnel. LGM!!!

fatherflot
fatherflot

What rubbish.  Poorly-written, poorly-reasoned, silly, sensationalistic, overstated.


Can the team get to .500 before people start talking smack about the rivalry with the Yankees?


I think we MAY be on the verge of better things, but I'm so tired of the Mets being Charlie Brown kicking the football while Lucy pulls it away again and again.  


If the team is going to compete for the postseason on a regular basis, there is still a LOT of work to be done.  Some nice signs over the past ten games, but let's not get nuts.

Robby Johnson
Robby Johnson

Sherman ends his piece with: "But at the break point of the 2014 season, it is not far-fetched to believe New York can be a National League city again. The Mets are at the portal once more. What will they do this time?"

What an obvious, yet weighted question.

Seriously though.  Talking in terms of what looks good "on paper" is always dangerous, as Mets fans know, but Sherman isn't exactly going out on a limb with his assessment of both franchises.  The Mets have done a solid job of remodeling their farm system as of late - on paper - while the Yankees have kept to their ways and overspent for proven - yet aged - veterans.

So yeah, theoretically the Mets SHOULD be in a position to move past the Yankees record-wise in the coming years, but - like Sherman ends his piece with - what will they do this time?

Feed us more BS about payroll limitations that correlate with ticket sales?  Or maybe realize the final step in this master plan is to pony up some cash or make a big trade for a few worthwhile, impact players who can cement this team's core together for years to come.

What will they do this time?

John Cucci
John Cucci

Ownership of NYC doesn't matter to me. Ownership of the NL East would be worth writing about, but we ain't there, yet.

rico
rico

Sure when the mets are as good as the yankees they actually are more popular. yankees most successful sports franchise in US history but NY is still a NL town. If there is magic in Queens, it will become a Mets town.


Goodnight core-4, good morning Harvey's avengers

David Berns
David Berns

Hahaha. They print the same crap about the loser Jets. NY is and always will be a Yankees/Giants town. Doesn't matter how many championships the other teams win (which last time I checked was 1 for the Mets in almost 30 yrs and the Jets haven't won since Vietnam was relevant)

Derek Lee
Derek Lee

Only if they win a World Series

William O'Sullivan
William O'Sullivan

@Born2Fish74 I don't see them trading for a left fielder now.  They won't surrender pitching talent for another outfielder until they've had a bit of time to evaluate Conforto. 

hankincolo
hankincolo

Message to me: I always wished some pitcher would've thrown at his feet, as in, Hey!.... why'd you do that...Answer, because you're holding up the frickin' game.

Now get your butt in the box and let's go. The ump decides when I throw, not you.  

metstastic
metstastic

@ken1010 Mets will never overtake the Yankees in regards to sales, tv, merchandise.. Yankees branding is so strong it is offer the charts.. no matter how bad they play.. You go to other countries and you see non baseball fans with Yankee caps everywhere.

Robby Johnson
Robby Johnson

@3and2 In other news - the Mets only All-Star and most consistent offensive player plays 2B . . . and doesn't cost $240 million

Robby Johnson
Robby Johnson

@fatherflot This is what happens when both NY baseball teams stink and training camp hasn't started yet.

herblehman
herblehman

Agreed. The newspapers are making up news on a slow news day. And sadly, it has more to do with the clock striking midnight on the Yankees than any improvements made by the Mets.


BTW I love the Charlie Brown/Lucy analogy in this post. That is just about perfect.

fatherflot
fatherflot

@herblehman The Yankees are an ordinary team with a high payroll and the Mets are a mediocre team in rebuilding mode with a lot of question marks outside of the starting staff.  The end.  For now.