Brewers to sign Mark Reynolds; Market for Ike shrinks

The Brewers will sign Mark Reynolds, and will likely play him at first base. It will be a minor-league deal, but Reynolds is pretty much on the 25-man roster (Hardicourt).

This kills the idea of trading the recently-inked Ike Davis to Milwaukee (Rosenthal).

The Brewers were looking for a new first baseman all winter, according to their GM Doug Melvin (Haudricourt, Jan. 11) and Melvin said he had been talking with the Mets about Davis, but the two sides never saw eye-to-eye on a deal (MLB.com, Jan. 7).

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

The way I understand Ike’s market, from people familiar with the situation, it’s likely to remain cool until Spring Training. Teams now know how much Davis will be making in 2014 ($3.5 million), and there’s no telling what injuries occur or things pop up to change the market.

Also, I think teams know the Mets could realistically end up cutting Davis before the start of the season.

57 comments
Sidd
Sidd

Enough about Ike, already.  I often wonder if there would have been so much chatter about Ike this off-season if Matt hadn't posted every time Ike blew his nose.  Forget the trade market, already.  Ike will enter spring competing for the first base job with all the aforementioned.  Period.  Hope for the best player to win the job conclusively in St. Lucie.  The rest will be dealt or released or farmed.  


You can boo Ike all you want, but the best thing for the team is for everyone to root FOR him and hope he snaps out of his funk, because if he can return to form, he can be as important piece to the Mets winning in 2014 as Grandy or David.


"Baseball is ninety percent mental and the other half is physical." - Yogi Berra.  Metsblog and the fan base can help with the 90% by cutting out the inane Ike bashing and actually support the guy.  Ultimately, Ike may lose his job to Wilmer or Satin or Duda, but for me, as long as Ike wears blue and orange, I will continue to root for him, not against him.

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

He's not going anywhere., probably never was.  He has no trade value at this point, especially at his price point.  To create the illusion that that he's going anywhere is just misleading the readers.  The last line in Matt's analysis is probably where we're heading. 

Bob Burket
Bob Burket

We all know what Ike is capable of. He can be very good or very bad. If he and Duda compete for the 1B job, it could bring out the best in both and the Mets make out like bandits. Lets hope for the best.

anthony G. Decesare
anthony G. Decesare

No ike trade probably means no drew or morales either. The good news is it probably means no duda at 1b either.

Jim Yager
Jim Yager

I hope this does not turn into another Jason Bay thing. We have to play him and hope he plays good enough to trade, that would really stink. It's hard to watch a player take the field and a spot, when th epitcher has a better chance at getting a hit.

Ron Davis
Ron Davis

Like i said. this could be a mix blessing for the Mets. I think what they could get back today would not be worth trading Ike for. so i feel he should get the chance if vs Duda is the competiition. so its put up or shut up i think and i take sole ownership for my view is that 3.5 for us fans is alot but baseball numbers and for his age and if he stayed healthy and played well would be a bargin for the team right now. He is playing not for his Mets career but for his major league career if he wants to be a starter. He will get a job somewhere for a bench player at his age he still should start.

edk9
edk9

why is it realistic that he would just get cut??  They'd rather pay $600k for nothing, than trade him for some random prospect?  I don't think cutting him is realistic at all.  It is just one of the options they could choose..one of the worst options.


Realistic is:

-keep holding out for a strong prospect, which could lead to keeping him longer term 

 -Trading him for the best offer out there 


cutting him now is dumb.  Even if he struggles, he's not carrying a Jason Bay contract.  Someone will take a flyer on him, that should be the worst of the realistic options.

eric88
eric88

He.s not getting cut but I wish he would. He isn't going to bring much. I rather give the opportunity to our own pitching  prospects then what he can fetch. I want the 3.5 for a SS not Ike.

eric88
eric88

@ Erik Koeller-- Tejada NEVER had a great anything.

eric88
eric88

@erik koeller-- They bring Duda and Ike to spring training the money tied up by them prevents the acquisition of a SS, Let them go IF it will net a SS. Flores to 1st base.

William Ost
William Ost

I wouldnt mind keeping Ike if they went and upgraded somewhere else. You know like shortstop. I don't see how having both Ike and Tejada back is going to help this team.

Bob Lang
Bob Lang

Mark Reynolds over Ike? Please...

slainte2
slainte2

i hope ike doesn't continue with the pray for a walk, slappy swing stuff he brought after Vegas last year .., i don't care what his OBP was with all the walks, he needs to drive the ball hard, thats the only way he brings vslue to this team.

slainte2
slainte2

i see granderson's nickname being "K" ... first, b/c a K is 1000, is a grand ... second, unfortunately, reason will be pretty obvious about 150 times next year

foley
foley

Bottom line is this.  Ike's ceiling vs. any other potential first baseman on the roster (barring Flores who they wouldnt start anyway) is not even close.  You do not give away 32, 90 one year removed.  Period.

foley
foley

Good.  Don't sell low.

slainte2
slainte2

i am going to go way out on the stupid limb ... i like some things about this club, tho i think we should get drew.

i kind of like my line-up below ... no speed, too many Ks, and not enough elite ... but good balance, no stretch of really black hole auto outs.

Defense is good ... right? even infield, except murphy, all solidly considered good ...

its a nice age mix ... vets, young vets, rookies

pitching has potential, so long as they stay healthy, and not having 500 lbs of duda-byrd as corner OF has gotta help the staff.

and morale wise, feeling that backup is coming w young pitchers ... thats gotta help as opposed to feeling like team is stuck in shyte.

this site is wrong place to be optimistic but whatever the over/under is ... i think am taking the over.

Victor Triguero
Victor Triguero

Here is another example of the Mets botching something. Why are you holding out Ike thinking you are going to nab a big time player? Why not move him for a decent mid level piece...if he is even worth that. Going into this season with Duda, Tejada and Davis on the team is a joke. Honestly...I would of lived with Davis if Tejada was gone...but no way in hell I can live with both plus Duda

slainte2
slainte2

drew, TDA, Murphy, Wright, Grand, Chris Young, Davis/Satin, Legares, P

i like idea of Tejada getting 40 starts against LHP between 2B and SS ... sitting murph and Drew 20 games each helps all of 3 of them given splits.

i like giving Satin ten starts at 3B to keep DW fresh ... between 1B and 3B that's say 60 starts for satin, 250 - 275 ABs ... good number for him.

start season w EY as 4th, andrew Brown as 5th w Legares and CY getting shot as everyday guys to start season.

i have MDD and Kirk in aaa rotating all OF positions w puello ... if by june, legares or CY is not producing against RHP, bring the better one up to be platoon partner.

Flores everyday 1B in minors ... if ike/satin flop by june, bring flores up for everyday job.

thats what i would do

rf04
rf04

I don't love Ike - but he has potential and was pretty great in the 2nd half of last year. It sure would be nice to have a sure thing other than Wright around here, but I guess when you're a Mets fan - that's life.

slainte2
slainte2

mets are taking care of business this week. i like the decisiveness (finally).

mike23
mike23

Ok, we've heard enough about Ike on this blog, let it play itself out now through spring training, no sense talking about trading him etc... anymore. If he is horrible during spring and still looking lost at the plate you either release him or you stick him in AAA again (or try one last time to trade him for something). If he somehow regains the form we all thought he had and looks good again he starts at 1b and all this talk goes away (hopefully). I mean Duda/ Satin are not going to be much better so unless the mets are going to go out and either trade for someone better or Sign Morales all this talk should stop now until spring training come and goes, let it all play itself out. I blame the front office for putting the mets in this situation, they could have done better in finding a legit replacement but didn't and now mediocre players are competing for the job. 

Steve Barbato
Steve Barbato

didn't the mets already decide they were going with davis at first base like two weeks ago? don't see how this is relevant anymore

slainte2
slainte2

this says to me that unless traded, ike has already won competition vs duda for lefty side of platoon. And no Morales.

Bob Cooney
Bob Cooney

Yeah, you know, I say Ike deserves one more chance. I'd hate to trade him away for nothing and watch him have a nice comeback year like 30/90/.285. Which is a distinct possibility.

nagel100
nagel100

i agree  stupid to cut Ike.  he should compete for the job in the spring.

Nell Dar
Nell Dar

It would be stupid to cut Ike.

eric88
eric88

They should waive Ike and Duda. Time to take out the trash. These guys are holding you back and they both have medical/mental issues. They are anchors around the Mets necks and of the 11 teams that needed a 1st baseman, no one bit on either. They are the past.  Waive them both .Use the money to sign DREW. Put your 22 year old B+ well seasoned infield prospect Wilmer Flores and leave him at 1st EVERYDAY and watch him rake. Now your a wild card contender.

slainte2
slainte2

they could realistically cut him in spring training? but mlb contracts are guaranteed ... they are now committed to paying him 3.5M for season regardless, don't think its realistic at all that they sign this contract in Jan and cut him in Mar

ac0814
ac0814

If I had to chose between giving Ike or Tejada another shot, I would pick Ike. At least he has some potential. GO GET A SS.

Kevin VanTassell
Kevin VanTassell

I agree that teams are hoping the Mets will simply cut Davis, if they could get him cheap, multiple teams would be after Davis. But teams aren't going to give a prospect and $3.5 million for Ike at this point.

BS
BS

Unless they have received literally zero offers on Ike this winter- which we know is not true - how could they justify paying him 1/6 th of his salary and then cutting him for nothing now , instead of taking whatever the best offer they got was .

If nothing else than just to not admit to making such a mistake , there is 0 chance they would do that.

Similar chances as a Ike for Braun trade, or Yunel Escobar becoming a free agent.

cj1786
cj1786

I agree, I keep seeing this written here but I just don't see cutting him being a realistic option. Like you said, if they were willing to give him away they would have traded him for a lesser package this winter. Cutting him makes no sense.

hlow24
hlow24

agreed, needed to upgrade one of those positions AT LEAST

Hodges14
Hodges14

@Bob Lang Why is that surprising?  Reynolds has 6 straight seasons with 20 or more homeruns.  Considering the only thing Ike and Reynolds can do is hit homeruns and Reynold is better at it than Davis why wouldn't the Brewers choose Reynolds over Ike?

Erik Daguanno
Erik Daguanno

Ike's most valuable season was 2010, when he posted a decent OBP but also did hit for some power.

nthmetsfan
nthmetsfan

@slainte2 

Besides, we already have Lucas Duda to look for walks and slap at the ball.

foley
foley

@slainte2 


Common wisdom around baseball now is with power at such a premium, you sacrifice strikeouts to get it.  Its not about how many strikeouts a player has, its how many runs they produce and how many wins you get.

ac0814
ac0814

Agreed. The Mets need to sign Drew. 2yrs 22 million.

Eric Koeller
Eric Koeller

@eric88 they have nothing to loose from letting Ike or Duda get time in spring training, when there are plenty of at-bats to go around...if they struggle, then maybe 

Eric Koeller
Eric Koeller

@slainte2 Alderson did it with Castillo and Perez, but i agree....they would have non-tendered him if they didn't plan on retaining him if a trade couldn't be reached 

Hodges14
Hodges14

@cj1786 Maybe no lesser package was offered?  Maybe there are no teams really interested.

slainte2
slainte2

i know, conventional wisdom and a good point in general Foley, but you still have to get around the bases ... this team has no speed, abd TC is not a small ball guy, so unless you are consistently putting the ball in play, you will have to rely on the long ball. Unfortunately, last years team was at bottom of league in slugging, hope to be better this year. But in general, a strategy that works against our ballpark is a concern.

on grand? i hope you are right, and his big swing still reaches fences. if yes, i will take the Ks, no problem!

as i said, i see good things here team wise ... but offense is a concern, and Ks (for this team in this park) concern me

ac0814
ac0814

Meh. "Great" is an absolute overstatement in every aspect of the word. He was serviceable in 2012, nothing more.

mike23
mike23

@Eric Koeller @ac0814 A great 2012 season, hardly, the guy hit .280's for 2011 and 2012 but did little else, he's a back up on most teams at best, should be back up for SS/2b if the mets had any money or higher expectations for their team. 

nthmetsfan
nthmetsfan

@ac0814 

I'd upgrade that to solid/steady.  Very few errors as well.