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Bobby Parnell will stay in PSL, aiming to throw off mound in Dec.

Bobby Parnell played catch Saturday with his teammates in Miami for the first time since having Tommy John in April.

Parnell told reporters he will spend the off-season rehabbing in Port St. Lucie. He plans to pitch off a mound around Christmas.

“I had my time off,” Parnell said (Rubin, Sept. 2).


miniMCavatarMatthew Cerrone: Think about it: Jenrry Mejia, Vic Black, Jeurys Familia, Josh Edgin... and Parnell. I know he’s not likely to be ready to pitch in a game until later in the year, but the bullpen is shaping up to be a huge strength for this team, following several seasons when it was an obvious weakness. It’s also worth noting the organization has a variety of other young pitchers, and an already crowded rotation, so I assume other pitchers will pass through the bullpen as well…




23 comments
metjetnet
metjetnet

Not to mention the specialists like Torres & the Lefties…

As we've seen with Tommy J pitchers going down multiple times, EVERY story about Parnell (& Harvey) needs a giant CAVEAT built into it.

They'll be fine WHEN they're fine, not just because we WANT them to be fine.

No projections should be made based on who they WERE; we'll find out soon enough who they ARE!

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

Boy, this guy is gonna be PISSED when he finds himself third on the depth-chart next Spring.

Randy Wilcox
Randy Wilcox

I think you use Parnell as trade bait at some point - but who wants to take a flyer on a TJ case? 

Let's not forget that at the time of his injury, BP wasn't this lights-out closer for two or three years. He segued into that role with several ups and downs along the way. He was almost "closer by default". We saw he had the stuff, but the intangibles that make a major league closer were always kinda spotty with him.

He might be a pretty serviceable set-up man, and I think after he's healthy you could market him that way and.....wait for it.....GET SOME FREAKIN' BATS ON THIS TEAM.

We HAVE pitching. We NEED bats. 

Simple math.

Richard
Richard

Parnell had Tommy John, Edgin has health issues, Mejia can't stay healthy having one issue after another, Familia can't throw to first and Black has strike throwing issues.


As great as they COULD BE, it could also go south in a hurry.

BerryBeltran
BerryBeltran

The Mets pitching staff has a team ERA of 3.58. Good for 7th in the NL; 12th in all of baseball


They are 5th in SO in the NL; 7th in .BAA


This pitching staff has arguably been a top 5 all around staff in the NL and top 10 to 12 in all of baseball


And they can potentially lose more games this season than in any year under this regime.


Point being is we say how pitching is so important but when the rest of the team stinks...pitching can only take you so far....


And outside of Wheeler and Colon..none of this pitching comes from Sandy. Harvey comes back next season. How will that help. He was here the year before and could barely win any games with the offense being so bad. How will that change dramatically next season? What indications show that the offense will take such a major step forward from where it was?


And defense? We have the 3rd worst defense since the All-Star break? Where is the accountability?


jaydhn
jaydhn

Not a single dollar should be spent on pitching in the free agency unless we have to ship pitchers out in a trade.

hashburry
hashburry

Let's not overstate the depth and/or talent in the pen.  They certainly have better arms than in the recent past, but that is a trend in every pen in the majors.  Almost every team runs out guys in the 7th 8th and 9th that are either filthy or throw well into the upper 90s.  Right now, the young Met relievers certainly need to get more consistent, particularly Familia, who I believe has the highest ceiling out of all of them.  Who knows what Parnell will look like when he comes back.  Neck surgery followed immediately by TJ surgery does not make him a slam dunk for a solid return.

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

Bullpens are arguably the most fluid part of any team's roster.  It's extremely rare that a team will go multiple years with the same bullpen assets.  Closers may remain fairly consistent over time, but the other cogs seems to come and go with regularity.  There are reasons why pitchers wind up in the obscure situational roles and middle relief in general.  It often has a lot to do with endurance, susceptibility to injury or lack of pitch diversity.  


It's nice that the Mets appear to have one less thing to concern themselves with, but it still doesn't address the 800 lb. gorilla in the middle of the room, the clear lack of quality position players in their minor league system ready to step in and make meaningful contributions.  At this point in the season this is arguably the worst offensive team in the league and one of the more porous defensive teams.  


I'll be waiting to hear that the team is ready and wiling to make significant investments in some of the key "glamor" positions, specifically shortstop, a corner outfielder, preferably guys with ability to fill the 4,5,6 spots in the lineup.  If coming out of training camp d'Arnaud is batting cleanup and Flores is in the 5 hole, Citi Field will be a bigger ghost town than it is now. 

metsjetsdu
metsjetsdu

if we win 75 games you think front office and TC will talk about how they've improved ? I do . This culture of losing is sickening. They always talk about getting to .500 and winning 90 and all that, but how about just focus on each day's game. This team isn't good enough to hear they should win 90. Sandy should have never put that on them. TC is a horrible manager. Our owners need to go but that won't happen. We should be talking about how bright the future is but just adding Harvey isn't going to make this a playoff team. We need a shortstop, a left fielder, our third baseman to heal and at least play average ball, we need our right fielder to hit at least .230-.250, not this .212 crap, and we need a manager, desperately. Other than , everything is looking up lol. 

Jeff Robins
Jeff Robins

Besides those already on the radar, I figure next year Las Vegas rotation will include Logan Verrett, Matt Bowman, Cory Mazzoni, Steven Matz, and maybe Gabriel Ynoa (might start next year in AA). With more experience, each of these pitchers will either have the opportunity to move up to the Mets or go on the trade market.

matt greco
matt greco

except that black is hurt, and edgin is hurt, and mejia is hurt.


oh, and parnell will only be 10 months post surgery at the start of spring training...there's no guarantee he will be able to be ready for opening day.


can we wait until they're all healthy before we start proclaiming the bullpen as a strength for next year?  

Mike Herrington
Mike Herrington

Bullpen is going to be deep and good we hope with no injuries. Figuring trades or the lack of trades of the Mets young starting pitchers like Montero, they could make the bullpen. A young lefty to watch is Leathersich. If he ever gets his control in order, he is going to be lights out.

mets1973
mets1973

I think Montero could also figure as a bullpen arm.  He could be the long man from the right hand side.

William Kelley
William Kelley

Mets need to move pitching to balance out this roster and get some offense. Without offensive improvement this team is doomed to another losing season

Robby Johnson
Robby Johnson

Trying to predict how effective or ineffective a bullpen will be is a tough thing to do, especially this far in advance.  I'm really not trying to be Mr. Negative - I relied on the same argument this past offseason when fans were irate that Sandy hadn't spent money to upgrade the pen, which was one of the team's biggest weaknesses in 2013.  Yet here we are in August, and the pen has proven to be one of the brighter spots this season.  Gaging how well a pen will perform from one year to the next is tough, simple as that.

However, I totally agree that 2015 pen has serious potential.  Cerrone makes a good point - one or even a few of the many Starting Pitchers figure to be moved there.  Unless, of course, one or a few of them are moved in an offseason trade.  Either way, it's nice to think that the pen isn't something that needs to be seriously addressed in the offseason.

John Finnerty
John Finnerty

Next year's bullpen could be solid, (assuming Edgin doesn't end up needing TJ)

sarcastico
sarcastico

He has no right to be pissed, he pitched injured (secretly) and gave away the game opening day. Given what we've seen this year from the current players in the bullpen and surplus of arms in the system he'd be lucky to find himself in the top five on the depth chart

matmil
matmil

@BerryBeltran not fair to say that what this team did this year shows you can't win with pitching. The real attempt to win with his team has not been made. A lot of people say the manager doesn't matter. I say this year proves not that pitching doesn't win but that a bad manager can kill a team.

hashburry
hashburry

@matt greco But who cares about the obvious facts regarding almost every Met reliever breaking down?  May have something ti do with TC having to run them out there every night trying to save his own job?  It's nice that the Mets appear to be in a better place with the bullpen, but herniated discs, bad elbows and TJ surgeries could destroy this pen once again.

hashburry
hashburry

@Robby Johnson But what starter are you going to move that will thrive in the pen?  Maybe Montereo?  It is apparent now that the trend is to have guys with either extremely filthy stuff or high end velocity in every team's pen.  That counts out the veterans, Gee and Niese, who would be better traded than moved to the pen.  There is no way you can move deGrom or Syndergaard to the pen.  Wastes their potential.  Same with Wheeler who is also to wild to pitch out of the pen.  So who goes out there from the rotation?  Harvey? (j/k).

Karl Leopold
Karl Leopold

@Robby Johnson Robby that is well conceived post.  Thought out and with some basis for accuracy.


Careful continue like this and you might find yourself banned....

Robby Johnson
Robby Johnson

@John Finnerty Ehh we'll just dig up Feliciano or Dennis Cook if need be...

BerryBeltran
BerryBeltran

@matmil @BerryBeltran I do think pitching is important but this season is proving that pitching only cannot take a team to another level. This team is laughable and that is with one of the better rotations and bullpens in baseball.