Asdrubal Cabrera

Asbrubal Cabrera is available, Mets are not interested

The Indians are listening to offers for SS Asdrubal Cabrera (Rosenthal, Dec. 10), but the Mets are not interested  (Sherman, Dec. 10).

It was reported in early November that Sandy Alderson’s top off-season priority was to upgrade shortstop and he would turn to the trade market (Cabrera, White Sox SS Alexei Ramirez and A’s SS Jed Lowrie) if he was unable to sign a free agent (Sherman, Nov. 7).

However, the asking price for Cabrera is sky high, according to people at the Winter Meetings (Brender, Dec. 10). Similarly, A’s GM Billy Beane has been rather vocal in public about not wanting to trade Lowrie.

Maggie Wiggin, Contributor

Cabrera is a good offensive shortstop coming off a subpar age-27 season. His batting, generally well above average for the position, dropped off somewhat, due to a spike in strikeouts and a drop in BABIP… He seems likely to rebound somewhat, though perhaps not to the level of his All-Star seasons in 2011 and 2012. Defense has always been his weakness, though, and this last season was his worst yet with -12.8 UZR.

87 comments
steve333
steve333

Hiow about posting links to all the player's stats like this blog used to?

Rob Curry
Rob Curry

I think the Mets should consider Asdrubal. He's young and it seems they'd be buying low as he had a down year this past season.

metsstrong
metsstrong

He's a decent defender SS. Not a GG, but not horrible as Maggie paints him out to be. Tremendous offensive for a SS. Mets should go for this guy.

Peter Buell
Peter Buell

what the Mets are doing should be called No Moneyball

sell
sell

Not interested?  Sure he has been on a decline in recent years, but he's still lightyears ahead of Tejada.  He has potential to hit over 15 HRs and actually drive in some runs.  I don't see him getting any worse defensively, so he's still probably better than Tejada.


MetsFan1962
MetsFan1962

Getting a little annoyed. . .not hearing much from the meetings on upgrading our team. I'm hearing a lot on other teams and our FO is too busy eating roasted turkey legs somewhere in DisneyWorld.

trevordunn
trevordunn

why get him? we have ruben tejada.....why buy a Porsche when you drive a volkswagon

Craig Kelly
Craig Kelly

Why trade for Cabrera ?  
When he will be a FA next year and we can get him w/out giving up any of our prospects.

dave27a
dave27a

I'm as skeptical of the Mets real financial picture as the next guy, but people need to ease off the knee jerk reactions to every report of the Mets not pursuing someone who commands more than $600K in salary.


Cabrera is a potential 1-year rental, who apparently will cost a significant return in a trade and who is a poor defensive SS coming off a down offensive year.  I think it's possible their lack of interest is based on more than money.

Craig Kelly
Craig Kelly

 If the Mets end up as the go-between for a David Price to LAD deal we could very well end up with Matt Kemp.   In some combination of prospects trading hands from all 3 teams.

I have been trying to figure out the a way that it makes sense for all 3 teams. 
This is what I've come up with (Warning: Lots of moving parts here)


To LAD : David Price ,  Daniel Murphy ,  Jake Mcgee or another LHP MR from TB


To TBR:  Ike Davis, Rafael Montero,  Joc Pederson, Plawecki, Jace Boyd and Ynoa or DeGrom


To NYM:  Matt Kemp ,  Hak-Ju Lee, Jake Odirizzi  and cash

Andrew Herbst
Andrew Herbst

I was hoping we were going to acquire Cabrera.

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if ruben tejada, lucas duda, and chris young are in the starting lineup next year, and the mets get rid of murphy (without getting a strong return) i'll be buying tickets to see the red sox or giants play. 


this is NYC fred/jeff/sandy. ruben tejada has no business starting on this team, or Minnesota and KC for that matter.

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this is who i was hoping the mets would target since the end of last season. wonder what they are asking for him.



thewizard7
thewizard7

I really don't get this franchise anymore.  Nothing they say is truthful and everything has to be read with a degree of cynicism.


Literally last week, they were saying Tejada was not worthy of being in major leagues last year when asked about his agent alleging that he was held in minors to affect his service time.  They also said he was out of shape and they have been disappointed with his commitment level.


If that is true, a real franchise would be pursuing any and all avenues in pursuit of a major-league capable replacement.  To outright dismiss a former All-Star in Asdrubal Cabrera because of a 1yr-$10mil commitment when the only SS in their system who had played a major league inning is deemed lazy and not worthy of playing in majors for most of last yr, things are getting increasingly scarier with the direction of this franchise.


You CAN trade for Cabrera, watch him have a bounce back season and either keep or trade on 7/31 for MORE than you use to get him now.  You can also get a 1st rd pick as compensation next yr if you tender him.  OR, heaven forbid, maybe his arrival with Granderson and young makes them a wild card contender.  How could they be so dismissive of this?   (we all know the answer)

Metropolitan
Metropolitan

Of course the cheapo Mets are not interested in   Cabrera...

Mlb GM
Mlb GM

im hoping for a good trade to go down before Christmas! :P

Lee Lewin
Lee Lewin

I said in another blog post that trading for a SS now doesn't make any sense at all. Upgrade in other spots, let tejada play out at SS for now. You have 4 very good SS's available next winter in Cabrera, Lowrie, Hardy and Hanley. YOu can kill me all you want, but this isn't the year we are competing for a title. Getting a full year of Wheeler, having Syndergaard up and Harvey coming back next year to go with Neise and Gee is when we can take that giant leap forward.


Adding a Competent SS next year without having to give up any spots now will give us the ability next year to add not only a SS but at the same time another OF as Young will be a Free AGent again. 


I'd like to see them add to the bullpen. 

jasonbay
jasonbay

@metsstrong So let me get this straight...we pay some valuable prospects for him...keep him for 2014 (a non-compete year anyway) at $10M...and then lose him next year to FA?  How is this better than trading for Owings, Gregorious, or Franklin?  At least those guys we'd have on the club for 5+ years.

metfan8669
metfan8669

@Metsaholic_611 - Everyone is talking about Davis being trading.  We should get something in return right?

Chris Fiorillo
Chris Fiorillo

@trevordunn Because you aren't buying anything; it's a 1 year lease on a Porsche or a 4+ year lease on a Volkswagen

jasonbay
jasonbay

@trevordunn Or in our case, why buy a ford focus when you have a perfectly good bicycle.

somedude
somedude

We could make a deal pending the player will agree to an extension.  Our Dickey trade last year would've fell through if Dickey and Toronto couldn't come to terms on a contract.  I wouldn't throw them out out-of-hand just for that

sell
sell

@bcleveland Ramirez would be an upgrade, but I wouldn't want to give up too much for him.

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@Craig Kelly because we have a giant gaping hole in the name of tejada there right now. the guy the mets had to send to fat camp, who gets injured falling while running from home to first. i mean i sort of agree in the context of the big picture. but if that is the case, then admit the season is punted; why try and improve the team for 2014 at all?you are basically saying forget 2014, which i sort of am already, but it would be nice to watch meaningful games in august for a change.

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@dave27a yeah but ruben tejada really blows. i mean it is clear cabrera is the superior player. to not be interested in improving the team you own is absurd and the subsequent fan disappointment is not a knee jerk reaction.


fans do actually want to see good baseball and an improved team. to improve the team you improve the roster. a 1 year rental is a good thing since the mets are now in the bottom 3rd in payroll in MLB. it means the mets upgrade for this year without being obligated for several years.

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@Craig Kelly its good you are trying to figure it out (i've had the same thought). but even if WE do, that doesn;t apply to the mets doing so.

dave27a
dave27a

@Craig Kelly Not a bad idea in concept - I think you could streamline this somewhat, because the Mets are giving up way too much for Kemp and getting prospects they don't really need (not that anyone doesn't need prospects, but you know what I mean). I think if the Mets could get Kemp and cash for Murphy and Ike it makes sense - I don't see the point of surrendering 3 of our own prospects just to further shuffle the deck.

texasmetsfan
texasmetsfan

It just does not make sense to give up what they are asking for just a one year player....now if a 2 or three year contract extension could be added , then i would be all in.

Mont5
Mont5

I think Lowrie is coming this year.

mets2891
mets2891

@Lee Lewin I don't think the Mets would have to trade Wheeler or Syndergaard for some of the options out there.  I disagree with you in that I think SS is by far the biggest weakess on the team right now and if they can find a way to fill it they should, especially with the young pitching staff this season.

Hodges14
Hodges14

@Lee Lewin You have absolutely no idea if any of those 4 SS will be available next winter.

Craig Kelly
Craig Kelly

@ton 
Not every player in the lineup is going to be an All-Star.
It's about balance.  
Cabrera didn't have a good year last year at all, and his track record is questionable.
I'd much rather have Jed Lowrie, and hopefully in FA next year so we on't have to trade prospects for him.

dave27a
dave27a

@ton Well I don't know if Tejada "really blows" - he is a talented kid coming off a very disappointing season.  A stop-gap who could push him next year makes a ton of sense, but maybe not one who costs valuable assets and who comes with his own problems.


Not being interested in Asdrubal Cabrera does not translate to not being interested in improving the team.  That's kind of silly.  they don't have to be interested in everyone who is better than what they have to prove it.

Craig Kelly
Craig Kelly

@dave27a
 Hak-Ju Lee is a SS and bats LH, could platoon w/ or replace Tejada.
Jake Odirizzi has a ceiling of a 3rd Starter and a floor of a LRP .
How is it that we could not use them.

Lee Lewin
Lee Lewin

@mets2891 @Lee Lewin mets, i get what you are saying, but trading monetro or pawlecki or any other potential top prosepct makes zero sense right now. 


Is SS weakest link? Yes, but is it needed for this year? Not necessarily. Beyond this year, yes. 

Lee Lewin
Lee Lewin

@Hodges14 @Lee Lewin Um, even if those teams trade them, they are more likely to go down in price nearing the trade deadline. You don't give up any good prospects for any SS now with so many coming to free agency. And at least 2 of them will be hitting FA next year. 

Craig Kelly
Craig Kelly

@dave27a 
I was just trying to figure out a way it works for all teams.
I've heard that TB isn't high on LAD P prospects and obviously, TB would not want Kemp due to the money.

Hodges14
Hodges14

@Lee Lewin @Hodges14 Pence, Lincecum, Utley, Halladay, Shields, Jeter, Carlos Gomez are just a few of the players who a year ago were destined to be free agents right now.  You can't plan ahead for free agents.  You need to take it year by year and be prepared to jump on a player if he fits your needs at the time.

Lee Lewin
Lee Lewin

@Hodges14 @Lee Lewin No id idnt say punting the season, please learn to read. I said we aren't winning a title this year. That doesn't mean you are punting the season.


I would not trade any top prospect for any SS now regardless of what you think I'd rather sign one next year. They will be available regardless of what you think. And if they aren't you can then make a trade then. You don't need to sacrafice prospects NOW for a SS when you are still at least a year away from competing for a major playoff spot. 

Hodges14
Hodges14

@Lee Lewin @Hodges14 Who said anything about 1 year.  Obviously if you trade for one of those guys you get a window to sign them to an extension.  As far as punting the season you suggested that in your first comment.

Lee Lewin
Lee Lewin

@Hodges14 @Lee Lewin you are not punting a season if Tejada is your SS if you upgrade in other spots. I'm sorry but you are wrong. This season isn't about winning a title. Its about building towards one Finally. But you can't fill in all the pieces in one offeseason when you need so many.


Yes, pence signed, but he's the ONLY fa that did. Lowrie, Cabrera are most likely to see free agency given the lack of SS's that will be out there and the fact that they are in small markets.


You can't just give away prospects for potentially one year. 

Hodges14
Hodges14

@Lee Lewin @Hodges14 Yes, like Hunter Pence was a free agent this winter.  I'll say it again, you have absolutely no idea if any of those 4 SS will be available next winter.  Planning to punt on a season based on guys who may or may not be free agents a year from now is asinine.