Amazin Avenue: Mets Annual available for sale February 28th, 2011 3:58 pm Like this:Like Loading... 74 comments   Get Livefyre FAQ Sign in + Follow Post comment Link Newest | Oldest marcus81 5pts Tate is the best guy on that list for the Jets, and maybe he won't break the bank blackwood1 5pts Jones is really the best WR for the money IMO, & while im not anti tate I don't see any reason to break the bank for him. Somebody who could be a 1 year reclamation project is Kenny Britt if he is all the way back from his knee issue. Same with Nicks 1 yr earn it contract but if we walked away with Jones & Roberts I would be happy.I am not a fan of spending every dime of the cap space this off season just because we have it. Next season also has many interesting FA's as well so unless its a cant miss guy im cool with a gradual build. So give me Jones, Roberts & a 1 yr reclamation in either Nicks or Britt & then move on in to fixing some defensive holes like Edge rusher CB & safety. Remember at some point we will need to sign our own talent in order to keep them & that takes cap space. Richard Troy jr 5pts Don't be surprised if Brandon Browner is a jet. SackDance99 5pts Please, no Nicks. Last season, he was targeted 101 times and only had 56 receptions for a 55.4% catch rate, with only 37.6% of his catches going for 1st downs, an amazing stat considering his yards per catch was at 16.0. By way of contrast, Decker had 87 receptions out of 136 targets, for a healthy 64% catch rate and 46.3% of his catches were for 1st downs.Also, Golden Tate had 64 receptions in 98 targets, for a 65.3% catch rate and 41.8% of his catches were for 1st downs. And, while I'm not an Edelman fan, his 105 catches in 151 targets for a 69.5% catch rate is outstanding, even if his 1st down rate was only 35.8%. gt73 5pts If for no other reason than I'd like to see them make the Pats ratchet up their payroll, I wouldn't mind seeing the Jets make a play for Edelman. MarshRandy 5pts How is Decker good value lagoo 5pts I wouldn't mind getting decker unless he wants big time money. Still had 612 yards and 8 Tds when his qb was a fullback jimjets 5pts well said Jetdee...I'm down with that. Nicks at an incentive laden deal. But really, at this point there are so many quality reciever that are shaking loose or already loose...to me it almost doesnt matter which one, you know? I say get one "sure thing" if such a thing exists, take a flyer on a guy like nicks or sydney rice and/or jason avant and draft either the best reciever or TE with the 18th pick. Bring in a bunch of guys, let 'em fight it out and see who wants to play like a jet. jetdee 5pts If we sign Nicks and draft Lee, our receiving core problems would be solved. I know people are down on nicks and lee but having nicks as our deep threat and lee working the underneath routes with Kerley in the slot would be a thing of beauty to me. Brad Jerris 5pts The sad thing is, whatever the Jets do, Has to be an upgrade over the weapons they had Last year. Brad Jerris 5pts Considering the two top Available WR prospects at 18 will probably be Cooks and Beckham, smaller guys, it would be great to pair one of them with a taller player like Decker. t__k 5pts Out of that list I probably take Hakeem Nicks and I can't stand the guy. I think if you're looking for a true #1, he's the only one on that list that fits the bill. Decker you could argue, but Nicks, IMO, is the only #1 on that list.What type of contract do you guys think he'll command? Brad Jerris 5pts I'm in favor of Tate at 6-7mil/yr and Robert at 3-4mil/yr as the two guys we should sign. I really want Decker, but I would not pay him more that 8mil/yr. I have heard a lot of national analysts knocking Decker, saying he wont get as much as some people think; GM's know he is not a true #1. So I think you really need to make a play for him and see if he can be had for around 8mil/yr. So give me Tate OR Decker and then Roberts. Brendan 5pts @SackDance99 I would take Nicks over Decker 9 times out of 10, and that 1 out of 10 would only be after sitting in a room with you with nothing to talk about besides Decker, haha. I just think Nicks was insulted by the Gmen, who gave his partner in crime a huge extension and then played hardball with him. Putting on Nicks' skin for a minute, I wouldn't have reacted the way he did, but you can't blame a guy for growing disinterested with a team that was losing and was clearly looking to replace him. On pure talent, Nicks > Decker. Unfortunately, it's all the areas besides talent that concern most fans about Nicks. If Decker is looking for $10 million a year, he can take a hike. MarshRandy 5pts @gt73 I think Andre Roberts could do more damage than Edelman in that offense phily kay 5pts @jetdee I think it has that potential. but nicks injury history and lee's injury history make this not even close to a sure thing rock316nyj 5pts @Brad Jerris Based on the money Decker would command, combined with his production from Manning in Denver helping his stats, you don't think the better combination would be Golden Tate at lesser dollars and drafting the 6'5 Kelvin Benjamin at 18? Brad Jerris 5pts @t__k I think he was hoping for 8-10mil/ yr, but he is probably going to get a reality check and only get 4-6mil/yr Brendan 5pts @t__k (coming up with random offseasons in my head)I'd sign Nicks and Jones, keep Kerley and Hill, re-sign Nelson and draft a guy. That seems like a unit with the potential to be elite at WR in a year or two. jetdee 5pts @phily kay I think both their injury concerns have been over blown, the most games nicks has missed in a season are 3 games and this past year was the only season lee was really affected by injury. That being said I would draft another receiver in the third round like a jarvis Landry or moncrief if either are available, or even in the second round if one of the fringe first round guys are available. t__k 5pts Nicks for 4 I would do. t__k 5pts @Brendan @t__k That's a solid group. Real solid. You're not big on Cooks, right? I think him or ODB would fit well in that group. Ebron would be nice there too. Bytor 5pts @Brendan @t__k Ooh why not Nicks and Tate for $12-14M? Nicks, Tate, Kerley, Hill, Nelson, draft pick sounds pretty ok to me. Kerley's a fa soon so we'd be pretty covered if he's too expensive. *ducks* phily kay 5pts @jetdee yes, but look at santonio. he was a healthy receiver until last season and because of that he was hampered all of this year too. Don't get me wrong, I love nicks and think he has tremendous value (more than maclin) but he's no sure thing. Lee worries me also for this reason, and his combine left a lot to be desired. I dont think Lee is going to be worth a #1 pick if he doesnt run in the 4.4's at his pro day. I think Cooks would be a better option than Lee because both his tape and workouts are great, and theyre consistent. I do believe Tate should be our #1 WR target in FA and would love to see Nicks on a short incentive deal. I also wouldnt mind Roberts or Simpson. I also think we should take a guy like Niklaus in 2nd or 3rd rd (if available) if we go WR in 1st harold 5pts Maclin just got 5.5 coming off injury. Think 6-7 APY for Nicks (maybe more). But we have to be realistic the guy was one of the top 8 WR in the NFL just two season ago. So you get what you pay for. Brendan 5pts @t__k I'm not, but I know other people are. But with that group you could pick any type of WR and he'd fit in, because you have all your bases covered already. Brendan 5pts @a57se Not true, we've had countless normal discussions. I get annoyed when you speak as if your opinion is fact ("Idzik won't sign Nicks"). Can you please answer my questions? And if you're feeling saucy, feel free to reply to my comment in Geno's thread. harold 5pts @a57se @Brendan Nicks has no off field issues. He is a player who after 2012 was expected to be in the 9 million APY range. We may get him for 6 to 7 APY. He just turned 26 in Jan. So you have a young established playmaker. I think it is more likely we go after Tate and Ginn or Jones than Nicks. But I would prefer Nicks Brendan 5pts @a57se Show your work, 57. You're speaking authoritatively again, and that's when people get annoyed. 1- Why wouldn't Idzik sign Nicks? 2- Who was rejoicing? 3- Why do you refuse to acknowledge that Jones is one of the most consistently good WR's in the NFL Brendan 5pts @a57se Do you have anything of value to add? I know you dismiss Jones (which is laughable) and think Nicks is a no-good jerkface who can never be worth signing, but these are the types of realistic scenarios worth discussing. Not "how many elite WR's can we sign!" or "how many top draft picks will we use on WR's? all three of them!?" Bytor 5pts @a57se @Brendan @t__k How do you like the smell of Nicks/Tate/Kerley? Or after next year, Nicks/Tate/OBJ? Brendan 5pts @gjet93 @Bytor @Brendan NEVAR Bent moderator 5pts @Brendan Just to pick up on something you said above, they don't need to re-sign Nelson - he's under contract anyway. gjet93 5pts @Bytor @Brendan No to Reed. Let's move on. Bytor 5pts @Brendan @Bytor Yep, I'm in the let's get younger camp even though I like Colon. For long term line continuity I think Asamoah is a smart signing. Brendan 5pts @Bytor I think Colon is the fallback option right now. He wants to be back and is coming back from injury. I assume the team is checking in with him periodically to check his progress. Personally? I'd be fine with keeping him at a bargain price, but I understand people's desire to upgrade to a younger player. Bytor 5pts @Brendan @Bytor Then they'd have to be a bit more choosy. Maybe Colon comes back again instead of signing Asamoah if they're comfy with the other 47 olinemen we have as depth. Brendan 5pts @harold Certainly a tougher call with that number, but I would be cautiously optimistic if those moves were made. That's a very talented duo. Bytor 5pts @harold In my above FA wish list, that gets us to $40MM. I would imaging Idzik would structure contracts in a way he can sign all the sons in the next few years.If we draft well, we'd be replacing guys like Harris, Pace, Browner, Reed etc in the near future. Brendan 5pts @Bytor Pace is hopefully going to be lower than that. Browner might cost more. Howard is likely going to cost closer to $7. I'd love if the team god Reed to take a minimum-level deal (if anyone can do it, it's "Uncle Rex"). High$ocietyJet 5pts @Bytor @Brendan +CJ2K, DBrown or MJD and we would be straight harold 5pts @Brendan Nicks will probably get closer to 7 million APY. Brendan, think more like 14 million for a Nicks Tate duo. Do you still sign up with 50 plus million in cap space after cuts and or restructuring. Bytor 5pts @t__k I just think we can draft a rb. Bytor 5pts @Brendan @Bytor I'll take a stab for kicks:Howard-$5Folk-$3Reed-$2Tate-$7Nicks-$6Asamoah-$4Browner-$4Backup qb-$3Pace-$2Lankster and misc.-$3Total - $39MThoughts? phily kay 5pts @t__k dont think he brings nearly enough value as a receiver, which is what we need to complement ivory. Brendan 5pts @t__k I think between the stable the team has and Tate's asking price, plus there being a lot of guys in this draft, that people kind of wrote him off as being not worth the money. I like him as a player, but I tend to agree there's no point in signing a FA RB if he wants to get paid. t__k 5pts @Bytor @Brendan speaking of Tate's....I never hear the name Ben Tate mentioned here. Anyone have any interest in that guy? I always thought he had potential but he was stuck behind Foster and had some injuries. Brendan 5pts @Bytor Without getting into per-player pricing (about to run to a meeting), I think that's do-able. Bytor 5pts @Brendan @Bytor I know I know, I love the dude too. I just took off my hyper-emotional green hat off and thought like a cold, soul-less gm for a smidge. Ok back to the warm side, we have to spend some money, yes? Here's my wish list that I'll let you pros figure out how much they'll all cost:Howard, Folk, Reed, Tate, Nicks, Asamoah, Browner, Backup qb, Lankster and co. Brendan 5pts @Bytor Oh don't go there with Kerls, I love that dude. I just don't know what Nicks will come in at, so I put Jones in there. I'd be pretty happy with a Nicks/Tate duo for $12 million, though.