Johan Santana 5 (Baron)

Mets interested in Johan, Chen, Lannan, Dice-K, Colon, others

The Mets are interested in free agent starting pitchers Bartolo Colon, Bruce Chen, John Lannan and Paul Maholm, among others (Heyman, Dec. 10). Sandy Alderson said he’s also interested in RHP Daisuke Matsuzaka, though he has yet to talk with his agent.

Alderson is also reportedly pursuing free-agent Bronson Arroyo (MetsBlog, Dec. 10), and he’s also talked with the agents for Garcia (Puma, Dec. 10), Maholm (Puma, Dec. 10) and old friend Johan Santana (Lennon, Dec. 10).

The Mets may be one of eight teams showing interest in Santana (Castillo, Dec. 8), who is said to be throwing from 90 feet (Nicholson-Smith, Dec. 7).

Alderson said this week that he is looking to add a starting pitcher, but he’s reluctant to give a multi-year deal.

Chen, Lannan, Santana and Maholm are expected to recieve one-year offers this winter. However, while Colon was once being offered one year and around $7 million, he may end up with two years and close to $20 million (Gammons on MLB Network).




101 comments
orangeblue
orangeblue

i would offer maholm two years!! he's a great left handed pitcher.

Bo Beck
Bo Beck

If this team signs Santana then I know for sure they have no clue what they are doing. If your going to sign a loser like that your better off filling the 4 and 5 spots with Torres and Mejia. Johan has made enough money off this organization NO MAS!. He hasn't been an innings eater in 4 years, has come off of two surgeries there is no point to the signing.

Herb Goldstein
Herb Goldstein

A healthy Mejia should be given the #4 spot to lose. Then sign Johan, Dice-K, Harang, and Jeff Neimann (all 4) to minor league or low base/incentive deals. Let them vie for the #5 spot in ST. If one beats out Jenrry for #4, so be it.

TRex
TRex

What all of this means is that a) as long as the player is washed up and cannot possibly help the Mets, AND b) he is willing to play for the major league minimum, or close to it, the Mets have an interest.  If he doesn't meet both criteria, they are not interested.

metman9
metman9

Izturis is a complete waste of money, Tejada is a better player than he is... No clue what the plan is anymore.  Sounds like they over valued Murph and Davis.

mike23
mike23

I hope the mets don't cheap out when it comes to their starting rotation, the mets need a top of the rotation starter to help guide the youth and take pressure off them. Be it Arroyo, Garza or someone else with a proven track record, it has to get done. I am sick of hearing about finances etc... small market teams are making things happen on multiple levels, time for the Wilpons to open op those pocket books a little more and bring in the necessary talent to turn this thing around.... you can't say 2014 will be the year things get turned around and than make minor changes (garnderson/Young are ok) but mets need MORE!


SP

(possibly another mid rotation type)

SS

bullpen help


(and figure out what is going on at 2b and 1b), still say keep ike and trade duda (out of the two). 

nyijkm
nyijkm

Also, does anyone know if Byrdak is still on the roster or is he a FA? whats the chances he can still contribute? and Pedro Feliciano? I really like the fact that we brought him back last year.

nyijkm
nyijkm

Guys, I don't see anything wrong with signing a Santana, Lannon, Maholm, Chen, Dice-K, Harang, Arroyo, Colon or Garcia on the cheap for 1 year (Arroyo would be at least 2). We just need these innings eaters. I don't know about E. Santana/Jiminez/Garza because the Kazmir deal set those guys probably way too high.  With Wheeler, Niese, Gee, probably Mejia and then one of Torres/Familia and eventually Montero/Syndergaard, and another cheap veteran or 2 battling it out, we should be fine. 


what i really want to see is Sandy spending more money/prospects on impact bats. Bats will draw crowds to the seats at this point in time; not Matt Garza, Jiminez or even David Price.  


Wright + Grandy + a Kemp/Encarnacion/Bautista/Cruz/Choo will earn more in ticket revenue. We might as well just admit that our rotation won't be a strength this year because of Harvey's injury. If thats the case, just stack up on real offensive players and just "get by" with pitching until 2015 when our rotation is filthy sick with Harvey and Hefner back.  I would rather see the Mets score many more runs this year and give up a few more, than see a repeat of last year with Grandy approximately replacing Byrd, scoring 1 run a game resulting in 10 Harvey NDs/losses and of course a ton of Mets loses.

dave27a
dave27a

I can't believe 7 teams are interested in Santana given the unlikelihood that he ever pitches again.


We should be his first choice.

blake
blake

They should trade montero, nimmo, tejada, and leasearch for starlin Castro . The deal makes a lot of sense for both clubs. Work ur magic sandy!

Eric H
Eric H

Trumbo Deal DONE --- Mets should be on the PHONE with White Soxs looking to trade for OF Adam Eaton

crash
crash

If we sign Freddie Garcia or Bruce Chen I will become a Royals fan. And those numbers for Colon are absurd. I am still in shock that someone, anyone, gave Scott Kazmir $11M.

ponzies86
ponzies86

Would love to see Hefner as a long reliever on this team but to start for the entire season, im not buying it. He's not a starter! 

Eric H
Eric H

I agree with giving 1 year deal to any ARM to not block SPs coming up soon.  PLEASE do not sign Bruce Chen.  I would take Dice K or Lannan for 1 year.  Dice K more because this should be the season his ARM is totally back.  Plus if he pitches well Mets could trade him at the deadline.

tommets
tommets

Well, apparently they re-signed Hefner

WillisReid
WillisReid

They really just need a couple guys on 1 yr deals to go with Meija until the young guns are ready.

dave27a
dave27a

The post 9-11 game will always be one of the classic games in Mets history....just not sure our 2014 rotation should have the starting pitcher.

hankincolo
hankincolo

Can Johan last the season with that arm/shoulder history?

dumdeeduda
dumdeeduda

It's like Christmas came early! And all you got were socks. That is some board you got there Sandy. We have a real shot at 4th place with any one of those guys aboard.

cp3melo
cp3melo

The Willfrauds must be forced to sell.Boycott.Mets will never

contend until they are gone.

cp3melo
cp3melo

Boycott the Mets if they can't get a power hitter.

Oscar Serna
Oscar Serna

lol fu$k outta here with that crap sandy..

TurkWendell4Life
TurkWendell4Life

Don't block the kids with crap. Colon will be 41, cost way to much, and will probably break down in the cold. Pass. Bring back Johan. He knows whats up so when he sits he will understand. Teach our kids the change.

mets2014
mets2014

like it or not the organization is and will continue to behave as a small to mid market franchise...we need to either accept that or not support the team any longer...that being said, here are a few things they can do:

trade dan murphy for a starting pitcher that makes league min

trade ike davis for a young power arm for the bullpen that makes league min

sign corey hart for 1 year $8M to play RF using the salary relief from the above trades

move e young to 2B

lineup:

e young 2b

c young lf

wright 3b

granderson cf

hart rf

duda 1b

d'arnaud c

tejada ss


mets2014
mets2014

@Bo Beck Santana should agree to sign a minor league deal with the mets...they are already paying him $5.5M this year...it's the least he could do

Eric H
Eric H

@nyijkm Both were signed last season as minor league FAs which are 1 year deals so I think both are FAs.  I would PASS ON both players we have Edgin as LHP and Torres is good vs LH Bats.


Bo Beck
Bo Beck

Your foolish if you think Johan is an innings eater

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@Andrew Herbst yeah i don't see how that would help. dude was shot dead 33 years and two days ago today in front of the dakota building. and santana is just as useful at this point.

Bo Beck
Bo Beck

Cubs already said Castro is not being traded. So forget it. Better chance at Baez

Eric H
Eric H

@blake Are you crazy? For Castro I MAY give Tejada, Nimmo, and lesser Arm TOPS.  With that said, I would start any deal with Nimmo OUT of the deal.  He is very talented but his head is not in the game all the time. 

Anthony Testa
Anthony Testa

That's it fellas we are ready for the season

Bo Beck
Bo Beck

J.McDonald or D. Hudson but guys are perfect for what the Mets need or How about T. Hanson.

dumdeeduda
dumdeeduda

Why? They have a park built for pitching, speed and defense. They just signed a guy who had 40 HRs in his last full year. They have another guy at 3rd that is good for 20 - 25 HRs. They have a platoon that will probably get 20 - 25 HRs from 1B. Young can probably get you another 15 - 20 HRs. They need pitching. They need bullpen help. They need an upgrade at short. I'm not saying that I wouldn't love a better RF or an upgrade at 1B, but sacrificing defense, pitching or speed for more guys that will hit a ton of warning track flyballs and whiff in 1/3 of their ABs shouldn't be number one on the agenda.

dumdeeduda
dumdeeduda

Hart can't play the OF anymore. Lagares is going to play CF. Batting CY 2nd is a terrible idea. CY and EY back to back will be an awful top of the lineup. Other than that, this looks pretty bad.

nyijkm
nyijkm

@Eric H @nyijkm I know, but Spring Training invites would be good incentives just to see what they have in the tank. I'd just wanna see and then cut them if so.

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@dumdeeduda "..........just signed a guy who had 40 HRs in his last full year"


 2 years younger though. 2 significant years, with studs hitting around him and a short porch in RF. what is your over under on HR at age 33 in citifield with lucas duda protecting him? i'm thinking 27.


the mets had little power last season. and byrd is gone, the gain in power from gradnerson doesn't exactly mean they have overcome that weakness imo. they only topped 5 teams in that category. they do need an ops guy badly. and that usually means power.

mets2014
mets2014

@dumdeeduda if they don't upgrade the SS position, it will be extremely hard to carry lagares bat...perhaps hart is not the most ideal RF in terms of defense, but he would provide some much needed pop and rbi potential...I suppose you could bat granderson second, but I think he would be more valuable in the middle of the order...don't write off chris young just yet...he definitely has the tools 

Eric H
Eric H

@nyijkm to bring them in for a Spring Training non 40 man could not hurt.  Perfect world have one work with the young arms in AAA in the pen.  Have Byrdak sit down with Gorski and Matz and work on their stuff.  NOT going to happen but would be nice.

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@dumdeeduda i've always been skeptical of WAR merely because I can't see how it properly articulates something like defensive value. i feel offense is far more straight forward. defense is so hard to enumerate. and in addition is defense relative to offense weighted the same? i started reading wikipedia and was getting cross-eyed by the end of it.

dumdeeduda
dumdeeduda

That's possible, but he should get the shot to improve. If he can hit .250/.310/.400 and play the kind of defense that he did last year, he's a plus player. Especially at Citi Field and with the number of fly ball pitchers on this roster.

mets2014
mets2014

@dumdeeduda I suppose we will have to wait and see what other moves are made first...btw don't get me wrong I like what lagares did last season on the field and he even hit a little in the beginning...I am just concerned he may end up being more of an endy chavez type who clearly got exposed when given regular playing time...I hope I am wrong

dumdeeduda
dumdeeduda

Are you sure that Lagares won't hit better than CY? Or EY? or d'Arnaud? I'm certainly not. I'm not writing off Young, but Lagares is so good defensively, that even if he just hits the way he did last year, over a full season, he'll be a 4 WAR player. Maybe better. I would be pretty surprised if anyone other than Wright matches that.