Sandy Alderson

Alderson says Mets should be better than their record

Sandy Alderson likes his team and believes they should be .500, instead of 37-47, he told columnist Jon Heyman (SI.com, July 2).

“If you look at the run differential, we should be a .500 team,” he said. “We’re thinking we have the potential to be better than our record.”

The Mets have scored 327 runs this season compared to the 331 scored agains them.

As is, the Mets are on pace to win around 74 games against for the third consecutive season.

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

So, in a rotisserie style fantasy league, the Mets would be above average. Great. This means nothing to me as a fan, though. Look, I understand what Run Differential indicates, but it doesn’t take in to account when runs are scored.

Instead, I focus on how the Mets are 10-20 in one-run games. I focus on how they’re on pace to strike out 1,373 times this season. And, I see them 10 games under .500, slowly and painfully circling down the drain toward oblivion… again.




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Christopher Masiello
Christopher Masiello

I do think that Terry is awful and want to see him get fired ASAP. 


That being said: How many wins would THIS team have with Tony La Russa (or anyone else) as manager?

Marc Seldin
Marc Seldin

That's kind of like the Colonel and Elvis during the movie years in the 60's. Elvis signed a 10 year deal in which he would make 1 million dollars for every movie, (regardless of the box office results/returns). However, most of the movies were not so great and didn't do much for Elvis' confidence and musical career at the time. But,the Colonel was happy. He got 50 percent of the profits, lol..(kinda, sorta the same as what you're saying). In other words, that I agree that mid-level results across the board for everyone, doesn't make the audience happy.

Darrell Smith
Darrell Smith

If Sandy feels this way , then why does he not fire Terry. It makes no sense. Part of a Mgrs job  is to get the players to play at 100 percent. Now with this squad , if this the best they can play , well then I say , that's it's Sandys job to get the Mgr the players he needs so the team can contend for the post season.

With that said , any Gm must build his club according to the budget that ownership gives him. If ownership cuts the payroll every season as they have for the past 3 winters , then Sandy has to make do with what the Willpons give him. In this case , Sandy must shop at the " discount store " , and  that is why we have the team we have.

Unless  Ownership is willing to add on a little xtra , so Sandy can get players who coast a little more but can help the team become

contenders that we all want them to be , then Sandys hands are tied , so he must draft good young players

Eddie_Dean
Eddie_Dean

So just for the sake of argument, lets say Sandy's right, and this team has played better than that 11 games under .500 they now are. Generally when a team under performs it's talent level, in any sport, there is usually some scrutiny applied to the coach/manager. I mean, if the talent level is good (or at least better than the product), and it has to be SOMEBODY'S fault, presumably, and who else is there? But it seems like this organization has absolutely no intention of parting ways with Terry Collins. And even if they did, I suspect they'd just replace him with Bob Geren, who is basically just "Terry Collins Lite".


That to me might be the biggest problem with this organization. Not that they're losing, but that no one is ever accountable for the losing. It's always excuses, and run differentials, and "Well Terry gets them to play hard." But you can never pin down a member of this organization to admit a reason, even if it's a wrong reason, for why they're losing. If you bring up Ruben Tejada, they'll tell you how he's improved so much defensively and how he hit .289 once. If you ask why they didn't sign Abreu, they tell you about their glut of first baseman they thought they had. "So Sandy, with the team 11 games under .500, is Terry's job in jeopardy?" "We're not looking to make a move right now. We think Terry's done a good job and gets the guys to play hard." "But didn't you say this was a 90-win team?" "Well, yes, I thought we had the talent to potentially win 90 games if things broke right." "So how is the manager's job not in jeopardy when you are on pace to win about 20 less games than that?" "Well...ummm....ughhhh....well Chris Young was on the DL at the start of the year....." Seriously, that's all you ever get in terms of an explanation, they give you the litany of every player that's been on the DL this year. Beyond frustrating as a fan....

Hooney Heoh
Hooney Heoh

fans say Alderson should be better than his record.

Rob Rader
Rob Rader

Oh good... as long as Alderson says it, I guess Wilpon's buddy Selig should just adjust the Mets record accordingly.

Jos Borre
Jos Borre

We need a new manager and Alderson just extended the contract to TC, all does games that Alderson is talking about the mets had a chance to win does game but bad strategies and bad decisions of TC give them the loss.

cactus
cactus

i'm not worried, i'm sure they can finish 53-24 and win 90 games.

cactus
cactus

So here we have a statistically-based GM with no baseball background resorting to abusing statistics with an overgeneralization to defend himself, with the positive outcome being that the team that plays in the biggest market in the sport would only have lost half of its games in his 4th year in charge.


TIME TO CLEAN HOUSE

Richard Katz
Richard Katz

Lol nice defense... sandys problem is an inability to trade for snd sign quality major league talent. Has not made a major league trade that has brought in a player thats helped in his tenure. That's 4 offseasons. Colon and Granderson were ez they played in NY and like it here besides the fact colon is 41. Need to get 3 bats which is 1 less than we went into season needing. This is NY sandy not sunny california where we can wait for something to happen. We have been piss poor too long amd is tiring watching lackluster offense be fielded day in and day out. Also get rid of training and conditioning staff asap we get more injuries than any team in majors. Our minor injuries turn inyo 1 and 2 month stays on dl, where other teams have minimal if any downtimes.

Jack Fitzpatrick
Jack Fitzpatrick

The real problem is overexpansion. No team has any available players to trade and there is so much parity that everybody is still in the race. Selig will be happy when every team is playing .500 ball. Of course nobody will be in the stands watching this crap but at least Bud will be happy.

Jack Fitzpatrick
Jack Fitzpatrick

If this is true, why does Terry Collins still have a job? Wherever he has managed, he has been a flop. At least give Backman a shot at the end of this year and bring him back again next year. Plus, as Leo Durocher used to say, "Back up the truck."

Kevin VanTassell
Kevin VanTassell

The idea that Alderson would believe that Mets fans would believe that run differential means anything when your team is 11 under .500, is beyond insulting.

I really miss watching Mets games on SNY, and I really miss going to games at CitiField. When I retired in 2006 I had 4 seats on a 40 game plan, (my wife was sure I'd spend the rest of my summers in Flushing). Since then the plans have gone from 40 to 15 to 12 to those super 5 or 6 game plans, for the last couple years I've gone to one or two games with my father, brother and son.

This year I will not go to a single game until something is done to improve this team. I don't even have any ideas on what that could be (aside from Wilpons selling the Mets) so it maybe a while before I make another trip to Flushing, which is sad.

upstaphan
upstaphan

The run differential is still less than .500 so we are losers either way. What an idiotic statement.

kph16
kph16

Delusional and Idiotic.  This is the best our GM can come up with as we are spiraling out of control for another lost year, the 4th in a row under his leadership(or whatever it is he calls this day to day circus)

Colin Kelly
Colin Kelly

It cant be Sandy's fault. He has immunity. /sarc/

Marc Sonnenberg
Marc Sonnenberg

So make Tim Teufel the Manager so he gets more out of them. Obviously Terry Collins is Clueless.

Curtis Batdorf
Curtis Batdorf

So this team is better than they really are. Great.

...and how good of a team are they "really?"



.500


Who in the H$ll wants a .500 team??!

Paul Gardner
Paul Gardner

Sandy/Ricco/Depo make over 10 million.

No pay cut there

ejzilef
ejzilef

@metsblog: Sandy should take a look in the proverbial mirror and see what's staring back cause he should be scared of this team HE built

ken1010
ken1010

I think Sandy believes what he says. You see a lot of people in big companies who think process and key performance indicators are what you should focus on, rather than results.

They are wrong. Results matter.

There is no statistic on winning culture, on performing under pressure, or on handling people. That's likely why we underperform. TC is at the heart of that.

Good leaders adapt and adjust based on results. Sandy seems to be saying stay the course, all is well. He believes it. I don't. His statistics are incomplete.

Chino7671
Chino7671

Focus on how this guy has been a very bad GM, all the while getting a complete pass from the fan base. It's not all about the $. If you can't evaluate talent properly, what are you doing? I hate to even see a pic of him. 

Marc Seldin
Marc Seldin

Exactly. People are just looking for a quick fix.

Not4Nutten
Not4Nutten

Sandy The Mets are actually WORSE than their record!!!

Jerry Colfer
Jerry Colfer

This article reminds me...I am out of snake oil.

Steven G
Steven G

Just once I would like Alderson to take responsibility, express his frustration, and give assurance that this mess is not acceptable and that the FO is determined to right this team. But no, we are given rhetoric and over-analyzed stats that say we should be at .500 ( not contenders, just at .500) and zero indication that anything will change. I could go on, but we're all on the same sorry page here.

Not4Nutten
Not4Nutten

Get The Message? Woulda, Coulda,Shoulda!!! NICE TRY SANDY!!!

John Mallios
John Mallios

What's most telling to me is the utter SILENCE from the Wilpons. I suppose they're quite content with the hired-hands their hired-hand is running onto the field.

Angela Cole
Angela Cole

Wait, I've got it........lets sign Jason Bay!!!

Mushroombarleysoup
Mushroombarleysoup

Mets should be better than their record? Automatically, you can the manager,..for f%#* sake!

jersymick
jersymick

METS NEED A TRADE. DUDA & THE YOUNG BRO'S GOT TO GO. WHY ISNT ANYONE ASKING ABOUT ALDERSON'S LIABILITY vs collins.

SANDY WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THE BIG MOVE YOU WOULD MAKE IN 2014 THAT WOULD TAKE THE TEAM TO THE NEXT LEVEL?!

I hate the Mets right now.

and I blame Alderson.

cactus
cactus

@Paul Gardner at least we have statistically proved that no matter how many failed GM's you hire at one time, you still end up with failure.

Joseph DeFazio
Joseph DeFazio

Great points. This team isn't even close to being able to compete. Fans can forget about next year and expect more of the same.

Ed Renner
Ed Renner

@Chino7671 If you think Sandy is getting a pass from the fan base, you must be new to this blog.

Andrew Pasquale
Andrew Pasquale

We've been waiting 4 years for at least a .500 record...

John Schod
John Schod

Big move = Chris Young

Where have you been?

Must have outbid ourselves by at least $6m!

cactus
cactus

@Frank Accardi alderson deserves blame too.  no excuse to be this bad after 4 years.  he got handed a lot of talent in 2011 - wright, reyes, pagan, dickey, beltran, santana, harvey, lagares, murphy, niese, parnell, mejia all in organization already.