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50% chance Mets trade Bartolo Colon, says Bowden

Former GM now ESPN analyst Jim Bowden thinks there is a 50 percent chance the Mets trade RHP Bartolo Colon, with the Yankees, Blue Jays, Angels, Indians, Pirates and Mariners among teams that could have interest (ESPN Insider, June 27).

According to Bowden, “a one-for-one deal with a good prospect at the high Class A or Double-A level would be the most likely return.”

Peter Gammons has said the Orioles and Brewers could be a fit for Colon as well (Gammons Daily, June 12), since the do not have enough prospects to trade for David Price, Jeff Samardzija or Justin Masterson.

The A’s, Angels and Rangers will also be among teams looking to add a starting pitcher this summer, according to columnist Joel Sherman (NY Post, June 18), who points out that Angels 1B prospect C.J. Cron and Rangers 2B prospect Rougned Odor are blocked by players on their big-league teams.

“What you worry about with Colon is when he breaks down,” an American League GM told Gammons.

The 41-year-old Colon will earn $9 million this season, and is due $11 million in 2015.

Matthew Cerrone, Lead Writer

The Mets signed Colon to be consistent known player in the rotation. He’s needed, not just in theory, but in practice. And they’re going to end up needing the same thing again this winter, because there is no telling how Matt Harvey will return from surgery, all the while Noah Syndergaard may go in to next year a question mark again (since he may not pitch in the big leagues this year).

In the end, interested teams will be leery of Colon’s age and money and the return is likely to be less than Sandy Alderson would be seeking, given Colon’s role on next year’s team. So, my hunch is that Alderson will keep Colon, even though the Mets will certainly talk with interested teams about moving him.




201 comments
Kenneth R Mall
Kenneth R Mall

How about 100%? He's not our future, he's 40 and we could trade him to someone who's actually trying to make a playoff run and in return we could probably get a decent prospect or two.

psycho12
psycho12

Can't we just trade the whole kit-n-caboodle of them?  I mean.....really. This Groundhog's Day under the direction of the Coupon's is just killing whatever fan base is left.

John Paul Cullinane
John Paul Cullinane

Matt has fallen into the trap.  Dice-K and Colon should have been traded 1 week ago.

Jay Cross
Jay Cross

I like watching Colon pitch. That said, I look at every player on the roster and ask "will he be part of the next good Mets team?" 

I don't think he will. Therefore it only seems logical to trade him for someone who will be part of that team, instead of prolonging the facade of competitiveness for anyone gullible enough to buy it. 

Otherwise, what's the point? Keep him and win 76 games instead of 74?

sayhey24
sayhey24

Owners have figured out they can still make money without spending, especially with SNY. They hired Sandy to cut payroll and sound intelligent and hopeful while doing so. They know that a total rebuild program has as much or more chance to fail than to succeed, they just dont care. So they will continue to bring in just enough decent names to allow folks to dream of potential success and dump them as soon as they find that next prospect to get us all drooling.

mets74
mets74

Why must people continue to make fun of his weight?

Rob Steven
Rob Steven

Sandy was an idiot to spend his whole budget on Colon and Chris Young. What a waste of our money!!!!

Now that Omar is interfering in the Padre's personnel decisions we should dangle Colon in front of him and watch him drool. Minaya would probably give us at least 4 of their top prospects for a fat 41yo pitcher.

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

Sandy trying to trade Colon ''Hes available at the right price''....another GM ''Really''?..'' Well he is 41 and slightly overweight''.

Metsnow
Metsnow

we should trade him now while he has value....but only a single A or Double AA prospect??? Enough already with prospects. That is total BS. When are we ever going to get a legit hitter. When is the last time the Mets had a hitting prospect that actually a dangerous hitter in our lineup. This time next year we will be saying the same thing......wait until next season.

Paul Gardner
Paul Gardner

What happens when we trade all the "good" players away? 1st pick in the draft?

Rich Colacino
Rich Colacino

People need to wake up.....the Mets have NO plan. The Wilpons have conditioned Mets fans to accept one of the lowest payrolls in baseball. It's always about tomorrow. This is exactly what happens in Kansas City each year......doesn't it strike anyone as odd that the moment our players reach a certain salary, the stories of trading them appear? Murphy expected to make 8m next year, maybe 12 in free agency after that. Gee will be making money soon. So naturally they need to be traded. Would the Dodgers trade them? Yankees? Would teams trying to win games automatically trade away their best players? Wake up Mets fans.....we have become the Royals!

Now go race out and buy tickets in that disgrace of a stadium and fill the Wilpons retirement accounts. This way Fred can pass it to Jeff who can then pass it to his kids. 50 more years of Royal baseball. But dont worry, Harvey is coming.....until they trade him too.

dooley
dooley

I wonder who is more accurate in describing Colon's trade value, Bowden with the A/AA prospect or Sherman, believing we could get Odor or Cron

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

It's all about using his money next year on another position or better suited for the future. Colon is not the future. At best he helps you next year. Use the 11M on a SS or someone else who can help you next year and beyond. Payroll allocation. My concern is SA's ability to execute payroll allocation well. CY is certainly not a rousing start!

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

should have not signed colon or CY, i would have gave Cruz the 2yr 20 mil.  

Michael Zvirblis
Michael Zvirblis

Yes! Get rid of them clowns that actually produce! The nerve of them.

eric88
eric88

Really, on the Mets, except for Harvey who is injured, who is untouchable? I would make anyone available and listen to offers.

zoddie
zoddie

@sayhey24  Why were the Mets #1 or #2 in payroll in the league for a dozen years with the same exact owners, then?


Two words: Bernie Madoff.  I think the Wilpons are more broke than they are cheap.  They aren't going to sell, so hopefully they'll finances will bounce back.

zoddie
zoddie

@mets74  Because it is kind of funny.  To clarify, being fat isn't funny. Being a fat ATHLETE is kinda funny.  And HE has fun with it, it seems.  Everyone loves the chubby pitcher, anyway.

mustang66
mustang66

y ou take the 11 million from Cologne and the seven million from young and put it towards the new Cuban food just got here named Tomas. He is supposed to have the most power of them all. Regardless that is the best use of the money. If he does half of what is expected he is a 20million dollar a year player

zoddie
zoddie

@Albert E Lewis  "Well, he is also signed only for another year and a half at a reasonable salary, had a 2.65 ERA last year, has been healthy, has an under 4 ERA this year, is leading baseball in BB rate, has a WHIP of 1.163 and is a fun guy to have on the team."

Pete Brilvitch
Pete Brilvitch

@Metsnow  How can you realistically expect to get more than a prospect for Colon? A contender won't part with a legit hitter to weaken their lineup and a non-contender wants no part of a 40 year old.

Albert E Lewis
Albert E Lewis

@Paul Gardner And who knows if you will? Todd Van Poppel had ''potential too.

tullydew
tullydew

Hopefully. What's the difference if you win 65 games or 75 games. You would rather have the higher draft pick at that point.

Paul Gardner
Paul Gardner

The Mets Front office 3 amigos make 10 plus million on the Mets

Alan F
Alan F

@Tarheel11 and don't forget sandy's signing of D.J. Carrasco for 2 years.  I wonder how sabermetrics worked for him.  Do any of the alderson guys actually watch these players before signing them?  I could have told you Chris Young was done, and I do not need to look at numbers to tell me this.

Pete Brilvitch
Pete Brilvitch

@Mike Dell Italia  Unlikely Cruz would have taken a 2/20 deal. It was either a long term deal this offseason or gamble on a 1 year deal.

zoddie
zoddie

@Mike Dell Italia  Would you have also signed Drew or Peralta?  How about Arroyo?


If we're using our time machine, the Mets should have drafted Andrew McCutchen and Jered Weaver and invested in Google.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

Last place teams or next to last place teams don't have untouchables

Rob Steven
Rob Steven

There is no way with all the holes we have in our lineup that 20% of our annual payroll should be allocated to Colon and Chris Young. My point is trade him now for a bag of balls, at least we save his salary for next year. You know the Wilpon's are not going to increase payroll, that is the only money that Sandy will have to play with. We do not need a 41yo pitcher making $11 million. We need offense.

dooley
dooley

@Albert E Lewis That's what my initial thought was as well, but teams are more likely to overpay for pitching near the trade deadline. I was surprised that Odor's name was mentioned, since Profar is still hurt, and Odor has enormous potential as a 20 year old that skipped AAA

Paul Gardner
Paul Gardner

Name one success he's had? It's a very accurate statement you just made

Chris Molloy
Chris Molloy

@zoddie @Mike Dell Italia  Hey can I borrow your time machine? Mine won't start,


Your right about the 2nd guessing, but this has been going on for years. 2014 was to be the year. I think many of us realized in March that was a joke. but 2015 right now looks like disaster also.

zoddie
zoddie

@Metsnow @zoddie  Is that rare, though?  How many dangerous hitting prospects have the Yankees developed in the past ten years?  One?  And he's not even on the team anymore.

zoddie
zoddie

@Chris Molloy  Once Harvey went down, everyone knew that 2014 wasn't going to be the year.  The Mets knew it, the smarter fans knew it, Vegas knew it.


2015 doesn't look like a disaster to me.  A team that starts with a pool of Harvey, Wheeler, Niese, Gee, DeGrom, Thor, Montero and Hefner as their starters is off to a decent start.

Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

@Chris Molloy not second guessing been calling for cruz since the start of free agency, knew he was gonna be good, knew cy would suck and we didn't need colon we have pitching.  

sayhey24
sayhey24

All very nice complimentary players for a year or so, but every GM falls into a surprise or two each year. I am waiting for him to hit a home run.

Chris Molloy
Chris Molloy

@zoddie @Chris Molloy  Your list does not include 1 hitter. Don't you think that's a Problem? Your list of Pitchers is fine, but 4 of the 7 value has dropped since April 2013. Hefner does not count, I like him and he could be useful, but every team has a handful of his type

zoddie
zoddie

@sayhey24  We'll know more in a couple of years.  Wheeler, Syndergaard, d'Arnaud, or Herrera may end up being home runs.