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Stephen Drew Rumors: Red Sox encouraging Drew to return, Mets remain the best bet

The Mets remain the best bet for free agent SS Stephen Drew, although he’s being encouraged by his former Boston teammates to rejoin the Red Sox (Cafardo, Feb. 9).

The Mets might be willing to offer Drew a three-year deal, but the third year has not yet become necessary, Sandy Alderson told a group of season-ticket holders Thursday at Citi Field.

However, Drew’s agent, Scott Boras, had been seeking an opt-out clause after the first year of any deal, something the Mets view as a deal breaker (Rubin, Feb. 6).

WFAN’s Mike Francesa said earlier this week that the Mets made an offer to Drew, but that was refuted by MetsBlog, the New York Post, Daily News, WEEI in Boston and SiriusXM’s Jim Bowden, all citing sources aware of the situation.

Boston reportedly made a two-year offer to Drew last week (Bowden, Feb. 3). However, according to an on-air report from MLB Network’s Peter Gammons, Boston is asking Drew to be a utility infielder, while he’d likely be the starting shortstop for the Mets or Twins.

Michael Baron, Contributor

There’s been a lot of discussion on Twitter about the Mets letting Drew sign elsewhere and waiting for next year’s richer free agent shortstop class.. The problem with that is they really don’t have a proven, big league starting shortstop right now, and to go into this season with the same options as last season will likely to end with similar results. In addition, the Mets don’t have to give up a first round pick Drew today, whereas they might have to do so next year and pay more in dollars and years for another free agent shortstop.



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Joseph
Joseph

I think they will announce the signing of Drew to a 2 year 18.5 deal

With a option on the third year at 10.5. Total 29 million over 3 year's.

methead
methead

I doubt the problem is the out clause.  The out clause would be something the Mets WOULD want..  Its all smoke and mirrors as Drew prefers not to come to the Mets.

Chapter 7
Chapter 7

If they sign Drew, we'd have a fun team to look forward to. Even with the bullpen as is. This team could surprise a lot of people. Not to mention we'd have some chips at the trade deadline to add some big pieces.

I'd also like to see them lock up Murph for the next 4 years or so. A deal that would make both sides happy. This while business of trading Murphy and starting Young Jr., makes no sense to me.

upstater
upstater

Why the objection to an opt-out clause? Next year there is a surplus of good younger SSs and if he has a year good enough to want to opt out against that group, we'll have gotten a good deal for the year.

mikerolli
mikerolli

If the wilpon's have the money then sign drew tired of this wait till next yr- mets fan since 1986 - by the way paint the seats orange n blue looks like the jets play at citi

Dante Puzzuoli
Dante Puzzuoli

It's getting annoying now. Sign the guy. MLB Scouts say that Tejada... Sucks

mystere24
mystere24

This really isn't complicated. Drew is an upgrade on defense and in slugging percentage but his power will be muted at CitiField as compared to his previous ballparks and the rest is mediocre (BA, OPS, SB). He is also very injury prone, all of which makes Alderson's interest but not fawning totally logical. The Mets are Drew's best fit but he is not worth the contract given to Peralta by the Cardinals. Two years, $24 million, plus an option based on games played is about right.

A Drew signing bumps Tejada to a utility middle infielder and occasional starter at SS vs tough lefties, which is where he belongs, and it bumps Quintanilla to the minors or to be released, which is where he belongs. The Mets can offset $3.5 million of the $12 million to Drew by trading or releasing Davis.

Murphy has one more arbitration year in 2015 before free agency so if they sign Drew and sign a better SS next year, they can entertain trade offers for Murph and use Drew at 2B for one or two more years with EY Jr. or Flores on the mix against lefties. I doubt Drew will want this dance to go on much longer so I wouldn't be surprised if this is all resolved this week or next week.

Brian Webster
Brian Webster

Plus you don't even know how many if any of those guys will even hit FA or not. Some or all could come to terms with current team before even becoming FA. And the one or ones that do should become very expensive in yrs & dollars plus could cost you a 1st Rd Pk. While Drew is just sitting there at a reasonable price in yrs & dollars and only a 3rd Rd Pk. Ever hear of the old saying a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush?

Ron Davis
Ron Davis

why not wait sure we do not have that so called ss but Drew is overpaid we would only redoing the same mistakes we did before . Why panic wait and some ss will become avail during the season. the year before last Tejada was ok ss now he is not major leaguer . I do not overly buy it get a ss from Arizona fine do that but Drew is over rated and over priced and getting to a age where his performance will go down. why sink 10 million a year in him.

Kevin VanTassell
Kevin VanTassell

While I'm no Francesa fan, and I enjoy whenever he is wrong (or falls asleep on the air), I hope he is right this time. People worry about next year's free agent shortstops, but at this point I don't think any contract Drew will get would stop the Mets from going after a better option next year. Doubt Drew's new contract will make him untradeable (even if it's 3 years long)

aaar2d2
aaar2d2

After Selig retires...guess who's the new commish..yes S.A...another decade of what you see now..

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

I understand how three years is too much (how about two plus an option? small chance for him to stay then) but talking about next year's SS class is stupid if two years is truly on the table. As noted, the Mets need a steady SS this year. They have too many question marks. And, yes, a few good SS will arise next year. There are too many teams though for there to be no market for the guy even if the Mets want to let him go after one year. There is a chance he will get hurt, yes, but even then, he will be worth something unless it is too serious.  So, you pay for '14 and get something back either way for '15. You might be overpaying him some for '15 (minus the return), but that's how things work.  


If the Mets didn't have so many question marks (rookie catcher, 1B, SS, one or more OFs etc.), you might risk it. But, there are too many. Drew (with Tejeda or someone else as a credible short term back-up if Drew is injured some portion of the year) is an upgrade and deals with one question mark. It also gives something to the fans -- with the other moves, it is a pretty good offseason that showed some willingness to spend.


And, it is not breaking the bank by any means either. 

BadContract
BadContract

Why is Alderson showing his hand when admitting to being open to a third year? Is that to sucker Boston? I don't get it.

jarrod24
jarrod24

If they sign Drew this year, given that he's apparently offered to play other positions, the Mets could use Murph as a trade chip. Go after the better class of shortstops next year and move Drew to 2B. They could even use him in a trade this year and push either Tejada or Drew to 2B.

Connie Nerrie
Connie Nerrie

"...to go into this season with the same options as last season will likely end with similar results."

You really think so?  With Tejada in shape and more dedicated, you don't think he's likely to do significantly  better?  (Also, as I recall, playing in those ridiculous snow conditions really seemed to get him off on the wrong foot.  Didn't he make a ton of errors and  everyone got mad at him?)

Anyway, I have no idea if Drew is a good idea or not, but I definitely expect more from Tejada than last year.

Banned in MB
Banned in MB

Drew makes sense, even if he is a back up in 2015. I think the entire fan base is tired of AAAA players being sold as something they are not. I personally would like to see some proven professional players on the field. Even if they are a little over paid. 


Also, you shouldn't list your own site as a source.

Mickey Jennifer Wind
Mickey Jennifer Wind

after all the crap boras said this year, it would be humbling to end up signing his guy up with the Mets.  

supert
supert

@methead  More like the Mets are using every excuse not to have to pay him, but try to show the fanbase they tried.

jarrod24
jarrod24

@methead  The out clause is a problem. It's about contract insurance. If Drew gets a career ending injury in year one of a three year deal with an out clause, the Mets owe him money for all three years. So they prefer a one or two year deal without the clause. If it was a two year deal with an out clause after the first, they'd probably go for it. They just don't want to touch three years.

metstastic
metstastic

The reason they would want to trade Murphy is because he will get expensive really soon. Seeing Alderson's recent signings. He seems to prefer players that can play defense.

jarrod24
jarrod24

@upstater  as I replied to another person: The out clause is a problem. It's about contract insurance. If Drew gets a career ending injury in year one of a three year deal with an out clause, the Mets owe him money for all three years. So they prefer a one or two year deal without the clause. If it was a two year deal with an out clause after the first, they'd probably go for it. They just don't want to touch three years.

Donald Obrien
Donald Obrien

@mystere24 Murphy is a much better hitter than Drew and two years younger. 
He's a corner infielder for insurance.  If D'Arnaud , Legares, and C. Young don't hit better, you're going to want Murphy in your line up in 2015.  The only sure fire hitters are Wright, Murphy and Granderson.  We need Drew now at shortstop, in case D'Arnaud, Legares, Young, and a platoon at first base surprise us all with great years.  It's a 10-1 long shot, but not impossible.

metstastic
metstastic

And in 2 years you will be looking for another SS again and all the better SS will have been signed for 4+ year deals.

Donald Obrien
Donald Obrien

@Ron Davis Drew is 29 years old.  Why would his performance go down over the next 2 or 3 years.  What is Jeter?  39 years old.

metstastic
metstastic

You don't sign a player and look to trade him a year later. If you don't like the player in the first place, why sign him at all? A lot can happen before you look to trade him... He gets injured. He stinks it up. etc

Donald Obrien
Donald Obrien

@aaar2d2 Who cares?  It's the owners who do the spending.  We need an owner with deep pockets like Mark Cuban.  I believe he wanted to buy the team a year ago.  You know he wouldn't sit on his wallet.

Donald Obrien
Donald Obrien

@jarrod24 Wright and Murphy are the two most consistent hitters on the Mets.  Murphy has improved his defense at 2nd [and was excellent at 1b for a whole season], was 30 points higher than drew in BA, 25 more RBIs,  even in HRs [13], but could hit more if he chose to pull the ball.  He will make $5mil compared to Drew's 10 to 15 range.  He is two years younger than Drew and is not injury prone.  WHY would you trade Murphy and put Drew at 2nd.  Or put Tejada at 2b.


Fortunately, Murphy's value is appreciated by the baseball people with the Mets.  By all means sign Drew to play SS for the next two or three years.  Let Duda bat against righties and Satin bat against lefties.  That will produce at least 20-25 home runs from 1b.  Murphy, Drew, and Wright will fill out the infield.  If d'Arnaud settles in and hits as projected, and Legares shows offensive improvement, the outfield of C. Young, Legares, and Granderson might be a very happy development.  Several ifs in that assessment, but who knows.  I will be happy to see Drew added and have some hope for a good season.

Paul Rubin
Paul Rubin

@Connie Nerrie  Tejada is really not very good. He was a fine 2B when he came up but at best he's a below average SS with no speed, zero power, a mediocre batting average. He's basically the definitive cypher at SS at worst, possibly the worst in baseball. And at best he'll fall in the bottom 10. Drew if healthy is a better than average defender with some pop. At worst (if healthy) he's an average major league SS. At best he's slightly worse than top third among SS's.

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

I don't disagree other than the over-paying. As has been a trend this offseason... It's not the per year Money it's the length that has been the sticking points. THAT I completely agree with.

Paul Rubin
Paul Rubin

@Tarheel11  If the Mets can't get competitive, attendance will drop further. As kid in the late 70's I remember games where the upper deck was closed down and by the 7th inning there were less than 3000 fans in the stadium. Even the slightly improved TV monies can't help them. So they can continue to be crappy and continue to operate the team at a deficit and not be able to meet long term debt payments. OR they can gamble an extra 30 or 40 million and bring payroll to acceptable, be competitive, and be profitable AND get the ratings back up to boot. They really have no choice precisely because it's NYC with another team like the Yankees and close to the Phillies and to a lesser extent the Red Sox to boot. They have no choice. The question is was 2014 the year with Harvey gone?

zoddie
zoddie

Or more that three years for a non-elite shortstop in his 30s is an iffy idea.

Brian Webster
Brian Webster

@Donald Obrien @mystere24 I don't think there's any chance the Mets are going to want to pay Murph for much longer as his price tag goes higher and higher. And you can forget about it once he hits FA so may as well deal him before then.

aaar2d2
aaar2d2

@Donald Obrien @aaar2d2 That is the point..another commish who does nothing.. while the owners field this chitty team and wallow in debt..SELL THE TEAM or get used to lower then mediocrity baseball team for years and years to come


I speak for any rational Met fan. SELL the freakin team...and NO we are not buying your cr@p brand.

jarrod24
jarrod24

@Donald Obrien @jarrod24  Because I don't think Murphy's value will ever get higher. As much as I like him, I don't think he has a tremendous ceiling. You could have a viable replacement for him AND get something for Murphy. Putting Murphy at 1B also makes his offensive numbers that much worse. It's a power position for a guy that doesn't hit homers (and has a low OBP).

Connie Nerrie
Connie Nerrie

Thanks for the response.  Maybe the question should be framed as to whether the Mets should pay $10+ million for potentially a couple of extra wins this year.

Banned in MB
Banned in MB

@Mark Kelly  It really isn't over paying by much, and the team really could use an older fielder to help the younger guys. So even if he is a back up the last two season he is worth it.


Tarheel11
Tarheel11

Because they can't!!!!! The current BOA debt that is supposedly going to be restructured in April timeframe has severe payroll constraints in it. Under the current debt obligation the bank agreement won't allow them to spend that money! You can keep banging your head into the wall but read the articles. They can't spend that kind of money!

Donald Obrien
Donald Obrien

@Paul Rubin @Tarheel11The question I ask over and over and never get the answer.  Spend another 40 million and the attendance will rise from 2million to 3million this year.  That will return about 80-100 million bucks in ticket sales this year.  Of course, with the free agent market having shrunk by Feb. 9, maybe there's little talent left.  Cruse, Drew, Morales?  At least grab Drew, and we just might grab a wild card, especially if Legares, d'Arnaud, and Young hit well.

John Iaquinta
John Iaquinta

@Glorious Gavin @John Iaquinta @BadContract  "According to Metsblog," right? I was there, and he said no such thing.  A fan asked him, "Why not give Drew the 3rd year?" to which Sandy replied, "It's not always about just adding another year. We are not even there yet." 

Connie Nerrie
Connie Nerrie

I also remember last year hearing Keith/Ron talking about Tejada hitting a higher percentage of fly balls instead of the line drives he was hitting in the prior year (which I understand would explain his higher-than-average BABIP in 2011-12).  Don't know if line drive hitting is something he can regain.

sylow59
sylow59

What? Nobody pays $10M/yr to a backup. And are you including Wright, Murphy, Granderson, and C YOUNG in this young fielders?

Mark Kelly
Mark Kelly

@Mark KellyNo it's the 3rd year. THat's not over-paying in dollars. If it's the $ amount sandy would be willing to pay him 16 mil for 2 years, rather than 11 mil for 3 years. 


The years are what makes contracts Terrible. Not the actual per year amount. A guy gets hurt your like ugh oh well... A guy gets hurt and still has 2-3 years left your like oh crap here is $XXXX of wasted money

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

That 250 hasn't been closed yet. That won't happen till April. The additional 25m from MLB won't be spent. From what I read they have to use that for one of the bi-annual debt payments on citi field. Let alone the 600m due next year on their SNY stake. This debt issue is only going to get worse.

Donald Obrien
Donald Obrien

@Tarheel11 Articles I've read said or implied that the new $250mil restructured loan did't have those restrictions.  And what about the windfall $30mil TV money.  That hasn't been spent.  They spent the money that came off the expired contracts for Grandy and Colon. the $87.5mil is the same as last year.  So the $30mil TV money isn't being used.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

They are either going to get Drew by somehow finagling the money or else not and you will be stuck with tejada until a kid from within system comes up. Or SA is able to trade for someone like a Sardinas from Texas.