Ike Davis

Ike Davis Rumors: Brewers still looking, markets thin

The Brewers are still looking for a new first baseman, but the trade and free agent markets have been thin all winter, according to their GM Doug Melvin (Haudricourt, Jan. 11).

Earlier this week, Melvin he had been talking with the Mets about Ike Davis, but the two sides had yet to see eye-to-eye on a deal (MLB.com, Jan. 7). Sandy Alderson later said the Mets are not actively engaged in trade discussions involving Davis (DiComo, Jan. 9).

Melvin has also been unable to engage the Mariners, as well as the Rangers in a deal involving 1B Mitch Moreland (Haudricourt, Jan. 11), and he’s been unwilling to trade RHP Tyler Thornburg to the Mets for Davis (McCalvy, Dec. 1).

The Mets have been seeking a pitching prospect, like Thornburg, in return for Davis, having been shot down when asking the Pirates for RHP Nick Kingham (Perrotto, Dec. 17) and the Orioles for LHP Eduardo Rodriguez (Encina, Jan. 4).

The Mets now expect Davis will be on the team at the start of Spring Training since efforts to trade him this winter have been unsuccessful (Rubin, Jan. 5). The Mets could decide to cut him during Spring Training, at which time they would only owe him $600,000, according to ESPN’s Buster Olney.

Davis said he is not bother by trade rumors and very much wants to return to the Mets in 2014 (Martino, Jan. 9).

81 comments
mrfurley
mrfurley

people still talking about this?

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

Ike or Duda for that matter might be someone to trade in March when teams have a last minute need.

Bryan McEntee
Bryan McEntee

They screwed up Ike's swing. Bring back Howard Johnson as hitting coach and Ike's bat will return as well

sayhey24
sayhey24

The Mets are in a tough position. The only young players that other teams will give us any value for are Thor and Wheeler and we probably shouldn't trade either of them. Other teams could easily match or beat any other young players we offered for new talent. We need sure things at the plate at 5 positions or we have no chance to exceed even last years win total. Right now we have Wright, Murph and hopefully Granderson. We can have absolutely no real confidence anywhere else, even though as hopeful fans we concoct positive projections for all of our guys. That said, we won't get much if we trade Ike because of his salary and we probably won't get much if we don't. So what's the best move? I say dump him at spring training and resign at a discount since he claims he wants to stay.

k1200s
k1200s

If Ike is still with the Mets come the start of the season he will either be the guy that hit 32 HRs or the guy that couldn't hit anything.  I am betting on the latter.  I have no knowledge of what kind of teammate Ike is so can't comment on his worth in the locker room or lack there of.  The team seems to back Ike in the press but could them being good teammates.  I would like to see Sandy trade him.

Alderson is making a big mistake, by not trading Ike for what ever he can get. I will bet they will release him after spring training, and get nothing in return. I believe strongly that Ike has not been the same, since he contracted that valley desert decease ( Or what ever it is called ) Im sorry but in my opinion he will never be the same. Sandy you are screwing up on this move 

eric88
eric88

foley-- Hojos' off years have been as good as D Wright's seasons have been since they started testing. Just saying. 

foley
foley

Ike.... The NEXT Howard Johnson... remember Hojo? for a few years he followed every good year with a bad one....


1987   36 HR, 99RBI.... 868OPS

1988    24HR  68 RBI    765OPS

1989   36 HR 101 RBI       928OPS

1990    23 HR  90 RBI   753OPS

1991    38HR  117 RBI   817OPS


Welcome back Ike!!!!

ReedRothchild
ReedRothchild

The complete desert the comment pages have become here is not only so wonderfully and beautifully appropriate for a site as horrifically mediocre as this, but it is restoring my faith in the collective IQ of the Met fan base.


This site dying--or at least getting new leadership or maybe a competent teenage intern to run it--would be one of the best things to happen in Met Nation since the end of 2008.


Baron, will Granderson and Young be bust?


Cerrone, will Tejada learn to dive better? And will Beltran's tenor with the Yanks be better than his days as a Cardinal soprano?

Will Milwaukee sweeten the pot and offer Braun, Thronburg, and more for Ike?


Lord, you guys suck so badly it is not even remotely calculable. It's like you are trying to be a parody, but, sadly, you are for real.


But you should be proud I guess of the fact the Met mediocrity and apathy have allowed you to keep jobs which you are not remotely qualified for.


Let the exodus continue! The day when there are less than 10 comments on each poorly written non-story appearing here will be a true joy to behold.

yankeehater
yankeehater

Oh good grief....why are we still talking about this??? Sandy was intent on pitching, asked for too much, and was rejected...we get it. Its February in like 2 weeks....forget it....lets hope this azzclown davis wakes up and remembers how to hit because he IS our 1st baseman.

Darren Snow
Darren Snow

These teams are crazy for not wanting to part with a reliever for a young starting 1B. There are also a lot of 1B's around, but they're more valuable than relievers.

eric88
eric88

That's the Mets, they are oozing with pitching, need SS and any offence to supplement an awful lineup so they want to trade for more pitching, you can't make this stuff up. By the way, it has to be MORE young pitching of course, because their salary is very low. I guess Sandy was kidding when he said he needed a Vet in the bullpen to replace Latroy Hawkins.

chasesimms
chasesimms

I'm so glad they changed the comment format to "enhance the experience".  

chasesimms
chasesimms

Again.  Really?! Matt.  You have to stop this. 

cmetsfan
cmetsfan

They must want some kind of prospect/utility guy too,  in case Ike is a bust, which is probably workable. It's a little strange if they don't want to trade with us, at face value.

sell
sell

Thanks for the update!!!! Oh, wait, this isn't an update.

rubiconx0
rubiconx0

i wish he would get traded already so we didnt have to hear about him and so we can concentrate on fixing the other mess at short stop!

steve333
steve333

We have tons of pitching depth, why is he so obsessed about it?

Trade for a SS, trade for a OF prospect

Bob Giacalone
Bob Giacalone

I wish I had time to waste. I'd like to count how many times you write the SAME story again and again. This is what happens when there is no competition.

drmetfan
drmetfan

I know the Mets would never offer this trade but lets say Davis, Montero, Familia, DeGrom and Ceccini for Segura and Thornborg.

harryl
harryl

@Bryan McEnteeI have been thinking the same thing. Has any hitter gotten any better since Hudgens became the hitting coach?? I really think thats where the problem lies

cj1786
cj1786

It's not at all a similar situation. The mets can cut Ike loose and owe him nothing. Bay was owed a ton of money. Plus Ike is how old? 26? He can bounce back possibly where bay was just done.

foley
foley

@eric88 To be fair, a different era, a different team.

52nites
52nites

@foley If Davis could at least do that it would be OK but he wont...not here. 

ReedRothchild
ReedRothchild

@foley 

Ike's had two horrible years in a row little fella.

Valley Fever almost certainly has destroyed his career.

dv92
dv92

@ReedRothchild I honestly come to this site just to read the comments. There are so many intelligent people on here that can run this blog better. Some stuff I read on here is just pathetic.

Robert Hess
Robert Hess

@ReedRothchildAccurate post!  There is no creativity here, just the same recycled dross.  How about suggesting some possible trades or examining some backup players, eg. infielders, the Mets might sign. And why aren't Sandy and Jeffy called to task with direct questions?  How can they justify signing C. Young but not bringing back Hawkins?  It just one excuse after another.  How about asking Jeff what he intends to do if attendance plummets again?  This site is like 'Cliff Notes'.  Just reposting someone else's stories.

52nites
52nites

@ReedRothchild You are so full of yourself.  Your self importance is indicative of someone who wasnt picked when sides were being chosen. If you hate the blog ..get off ..no one will notice.

sylow59
sylow59

Well said. Most threads remind me Alfalfa (or Spanky, it has been a while) jumping up and saying "Hey gang! Let's put on a show"

Gland1
Gland1

@eric88 Is there a team out there who wants Ike Davis and wants to give up a SS?  Or maybe the Brewers are pretty much the only team who seems legitimately interested, so they are trying to get a pitcher out of them to help trade for a SS?  

wingo43
wingo43

@steve333 Ike has more value than you think.  We shouldn't trade him for just some b-level "prospect" who will get waived in 2 or 3 years.  We can still send Duda down to AAA.  And if Ike were to find his way, he's exactly what we need at 1B.

airfeet
airfeet

@steve333  It's too difficult to put together a trade.  It's not as simple as you think it is

foley
foley

@ReedRothchild @foley 


Simply because batting average stunk and he sucked for half the year - there are very few first baseman doing 32 HR 90 RBI.  And batting average has so little correlation to runs produced its a meaningless stat.   I will sign up no for any batting average if he produces 32, 90.


sylow59
sylow59

Unlikely to flip for a SS as they are very expensive, prospect wise.

They are likely just stockpiling arms. Not a bad idea. The Cards did it and continue to do do.

drmetfan
drmetfan

Yeah I know. But it is a start. They can take it from there and get a deal done.

ReedRothchild
ReedRothchild

@foley 

How does a .308 OBP correlate to runs produced little fella?

141 Ks?

How about seriously diminished defense?

A 1.0 oWAR?

How about zero speed and a terrible attitude?

Ike has been a totally atrocious player the last two years which is why the Mets cannot get absolutely anything of remote value for him.

Ike was Mike Jacobs in 2012; i.e. a valueless, borderline MLB player.

sylow59
sylow59

Agree. There seems to be a shift towards deep rotations. Look at the Cards. They have 11 guys that can start and they're not moving any of them. Why? Because they're not sure who they want to keep yet. Same with their OF prospects. AAA and AA is jammed. Their big thing is depth at all positions. Draft, deep pitching, minor league depth, and versatility (look at how many guys can play multiple positions): all are young cost effective guys; then fill in as needed on short contracts that are not back-loaded. That's the new paradigm. 97 wins, they improved defensively at 5 positions, offensively at 2, added a good prospect, lowered salary, kept all their prospects, added a draft pick - and 23 of the 25 man is under team control for 4 years. The days of restocking with free agents is over. It may be "small market", but these people here have a lot of fun seemingly every October.

Gland1
Gland1

@sylow59 I think if they were serious about getting a SS it would start with Wheeler.  So it would end up costing Wheeler and two more (not Syndergaard).  


The bottom line is that even if they were going to trade for a SS and pay the price, that price would most likely not include Ike Davis.  So if they are going to trade Ike, why not try to get a good pitching prospect back?   

sylow59
sylow59

The thing that amazes me about this site is not the level of complaining about lack of detail, every known sin in the English language, absolute lack of analysis that a 3rd grader would be ashamed of, reposting the same links ad nauseam - and the mockery and the fact that it has gone on for years (albeit much worse now) is that none of them appear to even bother reading the threads. Places like MLBtrade rumors links to some if these. What happens when fans from other teams read this stuff? I read the comments on their links so I assume it happens here. I'd be embarrassed.

sylow59
sylow59

I line in St Louis:

The O's started, repeat - started, the Hardy negotiation's with Miller plus 3

the Rangers wanted CMart, Rosenthal plus 2

the DBs wanted CMart or Rosenthal plus 2 or 3

and the "plus" guys were the likes of Adams, and top 10 types.

SSs are very expensive at the moment.

Gland1
Gland1

@sylow59 You're most likely right.  But if any trade is going to be made for a SS it's going to take a lot of young pitching, not Ike Davis.  People are acting like they should be trading Ike for a SS, as if it's that easy.    Besides the fact that you're not getting a SS back for just Ike, the teams with SS to trade don't want/need him.

Gland1
Gland1

@sylow59 I love the posts that throw out a ridiculous trade proposal, and then after being told that it's absurd suddenly "it's just a start".  

sylow59
sylow59

1) Liquor up the Brewers front office.

2) take pictures of said front office in a rather compromising situation.

Even this may not work.

Gland1
Gland1

@drmetfan For what then?  Forget about the start, what do you think it would take to actually get done?

airfeet
airfeet

@drmetfan I don't think Segura is on the market.  Why do you assume they would want to put him in a package?  They are perfectly happy with him