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Ike Davis rumors: Pirates acquire a first baseman

The Pirates have acquired 1B Chris McGuiness from the Rangers for RHP Miles Mikolas, both clubs announced. McGuiness, 25, appeared in ten games for Texas in 2013. He hit .246 with 11 home runs and 43 RBI in 104 games for Texas’ Triple-A Round Rock last season.

The Mets are still looking to trade 1B Ike Davis, and had been talking with the Pirates, as well as the Orioles and Brewers (Puma, Dec. 27).

They are targeting young pitching in return for Davis and recently asked Pittsburgh for pitching prospect Nick Kingham (Perrotto, Dec. 17) and 20-year-old minor league pitcher Eduardo Rodriguez from the Orioles (Puma, Dec. 27).

In talks with Milwaukee, Sandy Alderson asked for RHP Tyler Thornburg during the Winter Meetings (McCalvy, Dec. 11Duquette, Dec. 10), but Thornburg is set to be Milwaukee’s fifth starter (Haudricourt, Dec. 12). As an alternative to Davis, the Brewers have shown interest in signing free agent Michael Young to be their first baseman (Rosenthal, Dec. 18).

136 comments
maxster
maxster

Dump this guy for anything you can get and SIGN JD DREW!!!! Tejeda last year 210 AB"S- 0 ZERO  homer, .210 BA,10 RBI's ! Between him and the 9th spot that's 3 innings a game you have no shot. Only the '27 Yankees could overcome that. Why pinch pennies on your last open position on the field, makes absolutely no sense. Get Drew 2 or 3 years, whats the difference. Trade him year 3.

rubiconx0
rubiconx0

looks like we're going to be stuck with Ike, his first bad game when he gets booed will ruin him again, he will pout,sulk and blame the umpires as usual, another dead spot in the batting order that this team cant afford to have. Having both Ike and Tejada as starters again tells us that this front office is not committed to winning again this season. Granderson and Chris Young are not enough, aside of them, you have the same stale line up! If nothing else, please sign Stephen Drew already!!

Herb Goldstein
Herb Goldstein

This latest acquisition by Pittsburgh may be their way of trying to send a message to Alderson that they have options, but it is a pretty weak message. If you look at this guy's minor league splits, he is horrendous against right handed pitching. Sandy should laugh if Huntington says he could use McGuiness in a platoon with Gaby Sanchez.

If either Pittsburgh, Milwaukee or Baltimore was disenchanted with Ike, they would have acquired a real alternative, even though all the alternatives that seem to be available are inferior to Ike. It is clear to me that Ike is still in play, and as much as I would like to see him get another chance to be our long term solution at first base, I believe Sandy's strategy will eventually pay off. He will get the return he deems satisfactory for Ike, not necessarily the return he is asking for now, but a satisfactory return nonetheless, and we will usher in the year of the Duda/Satin platoon in Citifield.

niesesnose
niesesnose

If Sandy wanted to trade him for a RP prospect, he could've done it. This is probably a depth move by the pirates anyway.

MetsFan1962
MetsFan1962

Looks like Ike is going to be starting at 1B next season. Our New Years gift from the FO.... We couldn't trade him for a bucket of chicken.

Ryan Flanagan
Ryan Flanagan

It's obvious that other clubs aren't interested. The Mets best value with Ike is having him compete in Spring Training unless a deal comes along that is actually reasonable. You don't just give away a guy who hit 32 home runs ago two years ago making 4 million dollars in 2013 money. Ike HAS the potential if he can sort it out and its worth it to the Mets to give him at least the opportunity to win the job. When you actually think of it objectively, it makes sense to keep him barring a team giving you a respectable player in return.

Joseph Baffi
Joseph Baffi

I say keep ike they placed to much pressure on him expecting 30 hr and 100 rbi and carry the team in 2nd and 3rd year now  w grandy and wright I think the pressure will be off he much better the duda

niesesnose
niesesnose

If this is who the pirates really want as their platoon guy, they were never really serious about improving. McGuiness is no better than Lutz or Allan Dykstra

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

Assuming they can't/don't trade him. He goes into spring training and then starts the year in his customary 0-April/May funk. Then what? You know the fans will be all over him. Ike may well rebound and go on to be a productive player but I just don't think it will be in a Mets uniform. Think that ship has sailed and he's probably already dreading the start of the year and as soon as he gets up the first at bat and looks stupid striking out it will be feeding frenzy at Citi. And then it just compounds. 

Tom Downing
Tom Downing

Doesn't this tell you something... Bottom line, he stinks and nobody wants him.

Ron Davis
Ron Davis

that guy was waive then picked up he would not be a obsticle if the Priates want Ike just insurance 


Randy Dela Cruz
Randy Dela Cruz

Keep Ike. Maybe all the trade rumors will force him to step up.

AJF
AJF

Sound like we will have a platoon at first with Ike

hankypanky
hankypanky

Welcome back Ike, I guess.  Maybe he can platoon with Flores.

robbie
robbie

Don't get me wrong cause I like Ike but he is a head case and needs to go else where. He has had plenty of opportunity to work out his mess. Sandy should have traded him after the 2012 season when you could get more than a bag a baseballs for him. We probably could have gotten a decent SS. Management was generous to stick with him as long as they did last year. Striking Out a 101 times on 317AB is.unacceptable especially when you only have 65 hits. He stands to far from the plate and the thing he does with he eyes before every pitch drives me nutz. Maybe he needs contacts or something. Arguing with the umps after every pitch doesn't help. He is going to end up making too much money in arbitration and the Mets are going to end up dropping him so they don't have to pay him if they can't work out a trade.

rico
rico

I hope they find a cure for Valley Fever by April

Joe Wenzel
Joe Wenzel

I'd still rather have Andrew Brown be the right-handed platoon at first base - infinitely more power than Satin.  And with semi-regular play his average should go up. When he got over 400 plate appearances in the minors he always hit over 20 homeruns.

niesesnose
niesesnose

Yeah, McGuiness is basically an Allan Dyksytra type. If the pirates got Moreland, then I'd say "Well there's another team off the market", but this is nothing more than a depth move

dexx
dexx

@niesesnose I wouldn't be so sure.  He has been turned down for Aoki, Thornburg, Kingham, & Eduardo Rodriguez.  $4mil is a lot to Mil, Bal or Pit to pay for a guy coming off a .205  9  HR  season, and trade a prospect to boot.  They're not exactly high payroll teams.

dexx
dexx

@MetsFan1962 Dude, he will be released before that happens.  If he has no trade value now, we not gonna risk throwing away the 2014 season to try and build some trade value for Ike.  We did that last year.

niesesnose
niesesnose

No if he struggles in the first week or 2 it's Vegas or released

dexx
dexx

@Ryan Flanagan No.  It doesn't.  Are you willing to punt the entire 2014 season to see if we can build trade value for Ike?  Isn't the team and the season a little bit more important than Ike?  He won't be in camp.  The Mets have made their decision and moved on.

niesesnose
niesesnose

This is probably more a depth move by the pirates.

rubiconx0
rubiconx0

@Joseph Baffi if poor baby Ike cant handle the pressure, he should get out of NY, isnt you first baseman supposed to be a power hitter?

dexx
dexx

@Joseph Baffi If we keep him, wouldn't you be expecting 30 HRs?  If not, why keep him? 

niesesnose
niesesnose

His swing is godawful and he can't hit a breaking ball. A platoon of Duda an satin and Flores getting his occasional start is much better.

Christian Card
Christian Card

Stop! They need to rid themselves of as many players connected to the last two years as possible.

dexx
dexx

@Tarheel11 He's not coming to spring training.  The problem is that the Pirates, Brewers & Orioles know this.  THey are just gonna wait till we cut him.  None of them want him bad enough to trade anything of value.

dexx
dexx

@AJF Have you seen him play?  He's awful.  When's the last time you watched him?

dexx
dexx

@robbie You are the 1st person that I have heard that said they should have traded him after the 2012 season, and you are exactly right.  He wasn't good at all that year, but he did muster some trade value with the garbage time second half HRs he hit off AAA pitchers when the rosters expanded and the real major league pitchers started being replaced.  The Mets asked him to stop going out to bars every night, and staying out late partying, but he is all about Ike.  He needs to grow up, on another team.

dexx
dexx

Ike   .205   9  HRs   320  ABs   .326   OBP   .334  Slg%


Duda  .230   15   HRs   320  ABs   .350  OBP   .415  Slg%


WHY?

wingo43
wingo43

@Joe Wenzel  "And with semi-regular play his average should go up. When he got over 400 plate appearances in the minors he always hit over 20 home runs."


Or he will get exposed.  I always liked his swing and he definitely has more HR potential than Satin.  But I think they see Satin as someone who will get on base more frequently.

tryinbrian
tryinbrian

@dexx@niesesnose $4M is a lot for Milwaukee, but Milwaukee has a higher payroll ($91M) than our beloved Mets.  Sad, isn't it?

niesesnose
niesesnose

All I'm saying is there will be one team late in the offseason without a 1B, and Sandy could get a return that's decent from them

rubiconx0
rubiconx0

@dexx@MetsFan1962 dont be surprised if Ike is the starter again this season, never underestimate the stupidity of this front office!

niesesnose
niesesnose

I see him being stashed in AAA to hopefully inflate his numbers so we could deal him later on.

wingo43
wingo43

@dexx @Ryan Flanagan So the difference in 2014 will depend on whether Ike or Duda/Satin is playing 1B?  


Even with Duda/Satin playing 1B, how many games do you think this team will win in 2014?

niesesnose
niesesnose

@dexx @niesesnose No, McGuiness isn't better. To think he'd be a good platoon partner is pretty wishful thinking.

dexx
dexx

@niesesnose I hope so man.  I rooting for him to get traded and turn his career around somewhere else, but I just don't see it.  He has mechanical issues, pitch selection issues, pitch recognitions issues, mental issues, partying issues, medical issues, and an attitude problem.  He's got a lot of baggage.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@niesesnose There's very little to suggest he's going to hit, even in a platoon role.  His numbers were hardly great last year and were buoyed by near impossible good luck.

chavez06
chavez06

@niesesnose  Ideally, I like to see just Flores at 1B.  His bat is too good to ride the pine on the bench.

niesesnose
niesesnose

Why? As a platoon guy and bench guy he's better than Captain Pie Man. However, I'd rather see Duda platooned with Flores and also Lutz getting some Ab's as he played well in his limited time last year and has hit in every level in the minors

niesesnose
niesesnose

@dexx @niesesnose If the Pirates want to go that root, good for them. McGuiness only hit .246 in the PCL last year

dexx
dexx

@niesesnose@dexx I think the Pirates could reasonable think that they could get as much out of McGuiness as they would Davis.  I mean he hit .205  9   HRs  last season.  Its not crazy to think McGuiness could do better than that in a platoon role.