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Syndergaard again struggled, might not pitch for Mets this year

Mets RHP prospect Noah Syndergaard surrendered five earned runs on 11 hits in just 3 2/3 innings for Triple-A Las Vegas Tuesday night.

Earlier in the day, Terry Collins told reporters it is possible Syndergaard is not promoted to the big leagues this season.

“There’s a possibility you might not see him” Collins said. “Right now, we’ve got bigger issues on the table.”

In his last five starts for Triple-A, Syndergaard is 1-2 with a 10.42 ERA, during which opponents are batting .372 against him.

According to Collins, with Dillon Gee making rehab starts and preparing to return to the majors, Sandy Alderson will play a large role in determining who stays in the rotation the rest of the season (Diamond, July 1).

The Mets have struggled to get a read on Syndergaard, who they feel could benefit from spending the entire year at Triple-A, team officials said (NY Post, July 2).

Syndergaard was ranked by MLB.com as the No. 11 overall prospect in baseball entering this season. They also ranked him the third-best right-handed pitcher in the minor leagues.


Gary Apple and Bobby Ojeda discussed Syndergaard’s progress at Triple-A Las Vegas before his start on Tuesday night >> Watch here


Read more about last night’s minor league action at SNY’s Mets Minors




122 comments
Robert Hess
Robert Hess

OK but what are the bigger issues?  It would be helpful if Terry would identify them.

manicmesia
manicmesia

Remember when the Mets went out of their way to not make Wright and Reyes out to be the saviors of the franchise?  Now we have the front office and ownership basically doing exactly that, except worse because these guys aren't critical parts of future success they seem to be the only plan they ever have.

metstastic
metstastic

You really think so Terry? He is getting knocked around. Something is just not right with Thor. I think he needs to rest a bit before he needs TJ surgery.

SomeHighSchoolKid
SomeHighSchoolKid

When asked why Syndergaard wouldn't pitch for the Mets this year, TC replied "[blank] happens."

cleonsvan
cleonsvan

Everybody relax. He's coming off an injury and pitchers don't pitch to win in the minors as much as they work on specific things. Last I checked, he still hits 98 on the gun. If anything this gives DeGrom the entire year to progress up here.

Straw18
Straw18

Coors Field has been linked to AAA Vegas in similarity however Noah's numbers are just terrible so you can't put all the blame on where he is pitching......something is clearly wrong with him and perhaps that shoulder injury a few weeks ago is still troublesome.... 

Marc Singleton
Marc Singleton

 “Right now, we’ve got bigger issues on the table.”  


The most coherent statement Terry Collins has ever made. 

mets2891
mets2891

I hope this is a wakeup call to people who don't want to sign anyone and live and die with prospects.

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

He'd probably still be better off in the majors.  He's not going to progress pitching in those oppressive conditions.  You can't overstate how much they're hurting these kids with a AAA team in arguably the worst venue in the minors.  This organization does absolutely everything wrong. 

theglider
theglider

It's Vegas? It's the PCL? Maybe it's the pitcher. Is that possible?

C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

anybody still think it's not a big deal that the Mets AAA affiliate is 2000 miles away in Vegas?

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

Boy, this kid's value has fallen faster than MySpace. Some of it is clearly health-related but you gotta think that much of it is mental. Vegas is a tough place to pitch. And many top prospects get to a place where where, they believe, further repetition at the triple A level is unnecessary. All things considered, I would MUCH rather see what this guy can do than sit through another glacially-paced Dice-K start.

Vincent Santiago
Vincent Santiago

I think triple A is just a very rough place to put a guy.  

matt greco
matt greco

i love the idiots who are now calling syndergaard a bust...and there are plenty of them.  both here and elsewhere on social media.


i'm gonna go ahead and say it - you people are morons.  you are powerful stupid.  taking stupid to a whole new level, actually...

tullydew
tullydew

Wasn't this yesterday's news?

Why are they recycling the same articles? Guess Metsblog started their 4th of July weekend early.

bruster
bruster

PLEASE JUST LEAVE THAT KID IN THE MINORS FOR NOW...DON'T BRING HIM UP INTO THIS ABOMINATION ! 

Eric Hack
Eric Hack

How is the Dickey trade looking now. Travis D and Thor could have been had for Ike.

dave42
dave42

i want him out of Vegas.  It is a horrible place to pitch.  If you don't want to bring him up, send him back to AA and once he gets his feet under him and has 6-8 good starts in a row, then bring him straight to the majors. 

dearleader
dearleader

That's why trumping up prospects as if they were Dwight Gooden is stupid. Stupid Alderson.

Jeff Robins
Jeff Robins

MLB cannot force an owner out or to spend money.

Jeff Robins
Jeff Robins

Syndergaard has had a rough time lately in LV but we need to remember he won't turn 22 until August 29. So even if the Mets keep him in AAA all year and bring him into camp next Spring, he could pitch almost all of next year at the age of 22.

sarcastico
sarcastico

He's not coming up cuz he pitched like crap in triple a. Hopefully this gen k isn't a swing and miss.

Pun intended.

Robby Johnson
Robby Johnson

Hahaha of course.  Obviously this sends the message that the front office people don't envision the Mets competing for the playoffs this season.  All fine and good.


But that means these same front office people better be on the phones letting teams know they're "sellers" at the trade deadline.  If keeping Thor in the minors until 2015 is truly in the best interest of this franchise, then so is selling certain pieces of this franchise in order to bolster the roster for the future.


Am I wrong?

Shawn Mike Rolli
Shawn Mike Rolli

mets fans need to tell MLB to force wilpon out or spend money next year. mets are a laughing stock

whizz17
whizz17

Yep of course, keep him in the minors and let Dice K keep starting meaningless games. I am just about to stop watching the Mets and it's not even July 4th.

Marc Singleton
Marc Singleton

That would be the best thing for Thor.  Don't subject him to this mess. 

Raymond Kim
Raymond Kim

he will be up here so they can sell tickets

Eddie Jones
Eddie Jones

It might be time for a new manager. How about that Terry?

mi
mi

of course, why would we let him get his feet wet in season that means NOTHING

Kenneth Meltsner
Kenneth Meltsner

Sure, the guy has been a little underwhelming in Vegas. I'm sure he's bored out of his mind. Why not bring him up for a taste of the bigs and the occasional spot start? I don't think any of us really want to see Dice-K in the rotation. Hey, the Yankees need pitching. I know Solarte has hit the skids but maybe those guys in the Bronx would welcome another Japanese (former) ace.

Robert Nolan
Robert Nolan

No sense rushing the kid to a team that stinks. Wait till next year and let him prepare to try and start the season in the bigs....

Daniel Burnard
Daniel Burnard

Guys Matt Harvey had the same Lull in triple A before he was called up. Sometimes these guys pitch to there competition and sometimes they just get bored and tired of waiting. If you remember before Matt was called up they were saying he could be a top of the rotation starter but not an Ace because of his numbers in AAA.

Tugboat25
Tugboat25

Is there a possibility we won't see Collins with the Mets anymore this season?

I'm fed up with that guy. He's not a part of the answer so move on. I'm tired of Terry Collins.

theglider
theglider

He needs to keep working. Right now he's not a major league pitcher. Hell, he's not a AAA pitcher yet.

Marc Singleton
Marc Singleton

@Macacawitz  Everything. Its actually impressive how they manage to screw everything up.  You'd think they'd get something right by accident.  

hubie_wc
hubie_wc

Didn't affect DeGrom. At the end of the day, you need to make good pitches. Wasn't an issue when Thor threw well in LV last year.

Macacawitz
Macacawitz

@C.K. Dexter Haven Worse than the distance are the awful weather conditions.  You can't spend a lot of time in the afternoon working on fundamentals when the temperature is 115F.  

Robby Johnson
Robby Johnson

@Marc Singleton Just delaying the inevitable.  Every year we act like next year won't be a mess, and yet here we are again.

mi
mi

harvey had a 5 era in AA.. pitchers need time to mature IN THE BIGS

jamets
jamets

@Kenneth Meltsner  How about if we wait until he earns a call up?  If he's bored maybe he should spend a little time figuring out how to get AAA hitters out.

hankypanky
hankypanky

If he's "bored out of his mind" then trade him.

Bob Higgins
Bob Higgins

Its going to be the same stinking team next year plus Harvey. EYJ is a lifer Duda they love him why ? and some cheap has been  in the outfield ! Next spring they going to tell us 2016 is the year .

rf04
rf04

@theglider Truth. This really shouldn't be a story - but in Metsblog's defense, people do get over ambitious about big name minor leaguers.


...and it's good to see that the Mets aren't panicking and bringing him up too early.

C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

@Macacawitz a step further... if you are a power pitcher needing to work on secondary/breaking pitches, how do you do that effectively in the thin air of Las Vegas?