Recap: Mets 11 – Marlins 5

Result: The Mets (34-41) won the finale of their four-game series with an 11-5 win over the Marlins at Marlins Park on Sunday afternoon.



Need to know: The Mets pounded out 17 hits in a rout of the Marlins. Curtis Granderson and Lucas Duda each had three hits while Daniel Murphy had two hits and three RBIs including a home run to pace the offense. Jon Niese continued his strong season with six innings and striking out four.  Niese improved to 4-4 on the season with a 2.78 ERA.  The Mets led 7-0 after four innings of play.


Game ball: Daniel Murphy, who had two hits and flashed some power with a home run and three RBIs out of the 2-hole.


Links: Recap | Box score


What’s next: The Mets have an off day on Monday and will host the A’s in an interleague starting starting on Tuesday night.




99 comments
David Torrini
David Torrini

Lets have a llook to our run differential: just -2 despite being 6 games under .500

we threw a lot of win away for just 1 run...we could have been much closer to top of the division.

We are not still good enough to compete but we are not that far... 1 big bat and we could be fine.

78/83 wins is my prediction for this year.

Lets go Mets from Italia! :)

Shawn R. Babcock
Shawn R. Babcock

I like your ideas Bockers. While I'm a big Jay fan, I'd sign for just Castro. I don't put much faith in SA making a big push this season. He's paying Chris Young good money (lol)...he won't throw good money after bad to fix it.

I bet if you could get in managements brain, they wouldn't be thrilled about our position - just far enough out. Just enough so people clamor we have a shot...but when it won't happen. On the bright side, SA can make one average move (hopefully at SS) and say "there ya go...now make a run"...

He doesn't get to cash out Colon, as he prob planned, and such, but he can now sell some tickets for (part of) the second half...

This team is what it is. A few years away.

...and no Hanley, people! The guy is not the right attitude addition...an often-hurt "me" guy...no thanks...

Brandon Austin
Brandon Austin

I find it disheartening to see my fellow met fans still complaining about this team. They just won 3 of 4 games from a second place miami club. Sure, miami is a .500 ball club, but second place is second place and they sure as heck have been playing better than the mets the majority of the season. It looks like this Mets team is starting to grow some personality. Its kind of fun watching the team swing those towels and murph slapping the coaches. I really do get a sense that this team is starting to figure something out. Time will only tell, but if our pitching stays hot and we get a healthy Lagares and a nice swinging TDA, there is a chance this team finds some light at the end of the tunnel.


-Sincerely, 

Overly-anxoius Mets fan

semperfi
semperfi

I agree 100%, Ramirez is a perfect fit for this team but I believe he would command more then you suggest which is ok for me to fill a huge hole with a guy hitting over .300 and playing solid SS, give them Tejada, Montero and deGrom, White Sox would get 2 MLB ready starters and they need pitching to contend and we get an allstar caliber SS hitting, it may seem like alot but it still leaves us with Colon, Niese, Gee, Wheeler and Matusaka until Sydergard is ready + you got Harvey and Hefner back for 2015 along with a stud lefty in AA who projects to be better than Niese not to far off, they have plenty of pitching deph, now need to leverage it to fill the obvious holes

Dave D'Agnese
Dave D'Agnese

Nice win but I highly doubt we beat Oakland at home. Just like the series win in philly and then we tailspin against a garbage squad, we aren't gonna beat the best team in the AL. Don't let this game against a bad starter fool you. I would try to trade for Alexi ramirez. He wouldn't command too much. Maybe montero and someone else. Then we can have a more contact hitting lineup.

Lagares

Granderson

Murphy

Wright

Duda

D'Arnaud

Ramirez

EY jr

Pitcher

Or switch the pitcher to 8th and have young 9th so Murphy can come up with more runners on. He could have over 100 rbi

Peter Buell
Peter Buell

I think our answer at shortstop is maTo reynolds who is just moved up to triple a. He hi 358 in 54 games a double a. In four games at triple a he's hitting 375 thats with 5 runs scored 2 rbi and 3 doubles. This continues Id like to see him up after the all star break. And playing everyday not like the other people wasted coming up hot some triple a playing well for a week and then sitting on the bench

Mark Phelan
Mark Phelan

Today the radio announcers were saying the Mets fans would be discouraged if the team were to trade some of their starters for prospects.  I love our announcers but I think they got this one wrong.  We know what we have and it is NOT a winning team.  We support them anyway.  Try to trade the waterlogged talent for something which can produce next year.

greekgod
greekgod

Mets are five games behind; still have a chance to win the division. Hahah


Could this come true??

C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

Grandy

Lagares

Murph

Wright

Duda

TDA

EYoung

Tejada


That should be your lineup.  If Lagares can't hit for average put him 6th and push everyone back, moving Tejada to the #2 spot and see if you can recapture what Tejada did in 2012.  Move Flores back to Vegas and start him.  Let him start tearing it up there.  When he does, bring him back and START HIM HERE and hope that he can hit here too.  Shop him as a utility IF/1Bman.  He's not a SS, he has no future there.  He also doesn't look to have the arm or hands for 3B.  Just one man's opinion....

pj10
pj10

I think the Mets had as many hits today as they did the entire rest of the month of June.

Jerry Colfer
Jerry Colfer

I don't know what it is, but I feel something happening with this team. It makes no sense, but suddenly I am more optimistic. Good pitching makes everything more watchable and scores closer. Actually, if some of these underperformers just get back to their MLB averages, that will help.

Well, I did go to a barbeque and have a few brews...but still...I feel something.

drmetfan
drmetfan

The better Niese, Murphy, Duda, Colon and others perform, the better chance we have to get something of good value in return. Let's face it, these guys will get traded if the right package is offered.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@bockers Although I agree with you that those two are upgrades do you really see the Met's adding 9M in salary? I just don't see it. I could see the Cardinals moving an outfielder considering the stable they have sitting at AAA they need to do something because their OF prospects are chomping at the bit to come up. 

But I just don't see the Cubs moving Castro. He's young and relatively cheap. And Baez isn't ready to come up and neither Baez or Flores are SS's. Even when Baez is ready to come up the guy is a complete hack with the glove at SS. He'll end up moving to 2B or 3B depending on whether they keep Bryant at 3B or move him to the OF. I just can't see them creating a hole at SS which is such a tough position to fill as we know.

mike23
mike23

@Brandon Austin still six games under .500 and yes they were playing the marlins so don't get too anxious cause this team has show for more than the marlins series that they have a lot of wholes that need fixing by the wilpons/sandy, if not they will remain under .500 and gradually fall out of the race as has happened the last 5 years..... mets need some offensive help!

mets1g
mets1g

@Dave D'Agnese Yeah that would make a huge difference cause Young gets on sooo much. 

1harris1
1harris1

@Dave D'Agnese  It's baseball though.  A split of a two game series with Oakland is not exactly out of the question.



mike23
mike23

@Mark Phelan I think they are saying mets fans want to see some established/quality/proven major league talent brought in as opposed to more prospects... mets need some legit offensive players or they are going to fade again as the season continues.... time for sandy and wilpons to step up as mets are only 5GB with plenty of time, its up to them to decide if they want to take the next step and compete for the playoffs or as said, fade for the sixth straight year. 

qualcomm
qualcomm

@Mark Phelan First of all, I feel you misunderstood their point. Prospects generally means punting for the next few years... they mean we should add talent for this year and the next few.  Winning will never happen without it.

I would be very upset, basically because we ARE a few players away and when you're waiting for the absolute perfect combination of prospects to develop... you end up getting two titles in 50 years.

We already developed PLENTY of players, so yes... if they don't finish the team then I assume they aren't trying to win.

Trade Colon by all means, but not Murphy.

jnuce
jnuce

@Mark Phelan i have no problem trading some young pitching but the players in return have to be major league ready now ready to step in and help right away

spelletrader
spelletrader

As you can see from these threads, there are plenty of fans absolutely sure that this team can make a run. Of course they are delusional, but I'm sure they would be disheartened if that did happen.

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@greekgod  The pitching really is pretty good...if they could must some kind of consistent offense I'd say yes.  But that's just not happening with this current group.  If TdA comes back and is a beast, maybe that changes it a bit, but I dunno..

jonlga
jonlga

Look at the division.

Florida is not that great.

Philadelphia is old.

The Braves have a lot of starters hurt.

The Nationals are good but have issues.

We have no offense but solid starters.

If our pitchers do well, we have a chance. Not a great one but a chance.

spelletrader
spelletrader

The Mets have had plenty of high hit, low scoring games. Batting with risp has been the ultimate issue.

metsfan91
metsfan91

Me too I feel like they will win 90..

C.K. Dexter Haven
C.K. Dexter Haven

@drmetfan Ok...trade for what exactly?  I mean i know the Mets have holes.  But trading for young AND proven ML ready players...is that really realistic? I'm asking is it realistic that the Mets can trade Colon, Niese, Gee and/or Murph for ready to play young major leaguers?  If you're an opposing GM, why would you do that?  IMO, it's more likely they get traded for MLers with big contracts.  Ok.  Can the Mets pay anyone they trade for in the long term?  

jonlga
jonlga

Why trade Murphy or Duda? Why decimate the offense?

BringBackDaveTelghe
BringBackDaveTelghe

@drmetfan  And rightfully so.  Any move they make that makes this team compete better for next year and isn't done as a financial reason HAS to be considered. 

stemog
stemog

@Tarheel11 @bockers I can see them adding $9 million in payroll if they move Colon and his $10 million salary for prospects.

jonlga
jonlga

Colon and Wheeler pitching. They both can win.

qualcomm
qualcomm

@jonlga We have a AAA team with no guts backing good starting pitching.  We're the Horshack of the Sweathogs.

Joe Paulson
Joe Paulson

@jonlga Braves and Nats are imperfect but both still a step beyond the Mets, who a fair prediction was .500. If they win 80-83 games, it would be satisfactory. Anyway, don't talk about "runs" until they get back to .500. Even then, it's dubious. 

spelletrader
spelletrader

This team would have to do something extraordinary at the trade deadline and be willing to drop (costly) dead weight like CY, to really have a shot at making a run.

Haven't you been watching this team? Two steps forward, five steps backward. One good offensive showing is just that, put together a few weeks playing above .500 and then start talking about winning something. Not when you're swapping last place with an aging Phillies team and have three better, if imperfect, teams ahead of you.

1harris1
1harris1

@jonlga  When they're healthy, the Nationals are by far and away the best team.  They have underachieved though for the last year and change.


Unless they add a legitimate bat, I can't take the Mets seriously in that regard.  .500 would be their ceiling imo, and even that's a stretch given how bad this offense is.

ken1010
ken1010

@spelletrader

If 83 games wins the division, as in 1973, we might be able to do it.

As you say, unlikely.

Mark Phelan
Mark Phelan

@metsfan91 Dear Metsfan91 - Please make a copy of this prediction and consult it before investing your retirement money.

drmetfan
drmetfan

What you see from Murphy and Duda is all they can do. I think we can do better at 2nd and 1st base.

drmetfan
drmetfan

Exactly my point. This team needs to get better quick and the only way it is going to happen its by trades. I'm willing to sacrifice this year if it means having a more complete team in 2015.

Tarheel11
Tarheel11

@stemog @Tarheel11 @bockers I'm sure SA would love to be able to deal Colon. His 9M this year isn't as big of a deal as the 11M he's due next year at 42. I just don't see how they don't have to pay some of his money and unless they pay a decent amount I'm not sure what kind of prospects they can get for him with the salary and age. A lot is going to depend on what happens with Cliff Lee and the Samardzija's of the world. 

1harris1
1harris1

@jonlga  Sure, no doubt.  This is not the NBA.  With good pitching you have a legitimate chance to beat anybody, no matter who you're playing.

cbbruuno
cbbruuno

@drmetfan Murphy is one of the best offensive 2B in baseball. Unless you are replacing him with Cano you aren't going to do a whole lot better.

jonlga
jonlga

Duda will get 20 homers and 80 RBIs. Murphy hits 300 with 10-15 homers and 20 steals. We don't need upgrades there. Other spots maybe. But not at those positions.

1harris1
1harris1

@citifield @1harris1  Good question.  Somebody on this site earlier speculated that Matt Kemp could be had for the right price.  Would you trade a pitcher for him?  I'd be leery about his health, but he seems physically capable at present. 


Is Allen Craig still available? The word was that he was on the block earlier this season. 


I'm not saying they have to get somebody great (I doubt that's realistic), but they need someone formidable. 

stemog
stemog

@1harris1 @citifield If the Dodgers pay half of the $107 million or whatever is left on Kemp's contract, I'd consider that, but he's not a $20 million per year player.

1harris1
1harris1

@stemog @1harris1 @citifield  Yes, you're right about that.  Question is would ownership even be willing to pick up half of the money due on his contract?  I have my doubts about that one.

1harris1
1harris1

@citifield @1harris1  I'd do that, but is Toronto even willing to talk trade for him? That's the kind of bat this team desperately needs.

1harris1
1harris1

@citifield  I'd actually be completely on board with that kind of trade proposal, if available.  You have to give up something of quality to get quality back.  Everybody gets understandably excited about prospects, but we're at the point where we have to start trying to parlay some of these kids into proven quality major league players, especially when our ownership isn't going to spend big anytime soon.