Here is Sandy Alderson’s 8-minute talk with reporters in PSL

To see a portion of Alderson’s talk with media in St. Lucie, click here.

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mikerolli
mikerolli

Zzzzzzzzz liar liar mets payoll 85mil budget

Victor Triguero
Victor Triguero

I wanted to share this quote from I believe the owner of the Brewers. 


"The way I look at it, you look at the growth of the industry in general, and how we're doing in revenues locally, and it makes sense. ... The fans over the year have supported us, the national television dollars are increasing, the health of the game from a revenue perspective has never been greater, so it's only natural and fitting that we use those monies to invest in our product.


WHAT IS YOUR EXCUSE WILPONS?

buddyryan
buddyryan

Another season with Tejada and Davis. The offense is going to struggle mightly.

Marky Mark
Marky Mark

Heyman just made a list of teams that should make another move... mets were on it of course and this is what he said "shortstop has to be the main area of concern; the Mets quite obviously soured on Ruben Tejada following a solid rookie season, with questions of conditioning coming up. But if they got Drew, Tejada could work as a fine utility player who could spell Daniel Murphy at second base at times to shore up the defense."

cver
cver

I thought Alderson sounded a lot less cordial than usual - seemed pretty grumpy.  Not sure if it's just a bad day or if NY is finally getting to him.  It's almost like US Presidents - by Year 4, there hair is grey.  In Sandy's case, it's more like how Bobby V was at the end - he was nuts.  Alderson is still mild mannered compared to that, but he was getting testy in this interview, I noticed.

fhc1224
fhc1224

I know I will get remed for this but Im saying it anyway.  I am tired of all the bitching and moaning about the payroll and players on this site.  I have been a fan since I started watching baseball in the early sixties.  I have had season tickets before.  The first thing I did when I moved away from NY was order Direct TV so I can watch all the Met games on the MLB package.  I don't understand all this complaining.  You are either a fan of the team or you are not.  If you feel that going to a game or watching a game is wrong because you are supporting the Wilpons then don't go and don't watch.  Also don't come here and bitch about it.  Would I like to have owners that always sign the best players available every year regardless of the cost?  Sure but that is a dream world not reality.  And before you say the Yankees do, where has that gotten them?  I title in the last 14 years, declining attendance, a fan base that acts like entiled spoiled asses.  I'll pass on that.  Where in the rules of major league baseball does it say that if you have a team in NYC, that you have to have one of the highest payrolls in the game?  Everyone here is good at saying spend this or that because its not your money.  Last I checked, owning a team was a business and most business men if they are any good look to maximizes thier profits.  Do I wish the Wilpons would spend more?  Do I think if they spent more they would realize greater revenue streams and more profits?  Yes I do but its not my call.  I don't own the team and its not my money.  Everyone is on Alderson, calling him a liar.  Why?  He has done exactly what he said when he was hired.  He got the team out from under some horrendous contracts.  He has built up the farm system into one of the top 6 in baseball.  He is establishing a solid base for sustained success.  Just because he didnt sign every free agent available this year he is a liar?  And those of you that say this team is not fundamentally better then the one from the one that started last season because Grandy just replaces Byrd and Colon Harvey are full of it.  There is not 1 person that comments on this blog, myself included, that thought Byrd would do what he did going into last season.  Most of you did not even want him to make the team as he would take a younger players spot.  Though most of hoped Harvey would have a good season after is rookie debut, no one expected him to be as dominant as he was.  Most people hoped & projected that he would be over .500 with an era around 3.5o in a solid first full season in the bigs.  If you come on here now and say otherwise about either of these players, you are bigger liars then you claim Alderson & the Wilpons to be.  The Mets are better then last year.  There are a couple of young players like Lagarese & d'Arnaud that we should supporting and enjoying thier development.  Wright is still Wright.  Grandy should be solid and adds some class & leadership.  Murphy will be acceptable.  Chris Young may have been a reach but at least give him a chance before writing him off.  Enjoy watching Wheeler develop, Niese and Gee progress and become more consistent.  Yes ss & ib are problems but deal with it.  Hopefully before the year is out there will be players like Montero, Flores, Puello, Leathersich, Walters & Thor on the roster making contributions.  The Mets of 2014 are better then the Mets of 2013.  They are not champions yet but are moving in the right direction.  Support them or don't its your choice but stop coming on here claiming you are a great Mets fan and all you do is attack the players, management, this writers of this blog, and other fans that actually do support the team.  Just do everyone a favor, shut up and go away.

John Ericson
John Ericson

what this interview suggests to me is that the Mets have no intention of really trying to compete.  Just put on the most acceptable team they can for as little as possible.  Grandy was a bone to the fans.  But, no real push to win.  

b__bunch
b__bunch

@metsblog I am not sure the mets have made any progress. Are they really going to win more games this year compared to next year?

lindro88
lindro88

These comments are comical. The team has considerably more talent starting this season than the one that started last season. They have 4 good outfielders, 4 good starting pitchers, and all people can say is "Don't show up at Citi Field". In a perfect world, we'd have owners that could or would spend money like a NY team should. That being said, the team that will start this season, should resemble the team that played very good baseball for a couple of months after Lagares and Young became everyday players. The rotation lost Harvey, but starting the season with a healthy Gee, along with Wheeler, Colon and Niese is a much stronger group than last year. So if people want to whine about Sandy lying to us, go ahead. I'm looking forward to seeing what Lagares looks like this year. I'm looking forward to seeing what d'Arnaud can do. I'm looking forward to a lot more than I was going into last season. The season was basically ruined in the first couple of months last year. I'm expecting them to be a much more competitive team to start the 2014 than the one that started 2013. Btw I find it interesting that when an article about Drew pops up, the majority of posts are against signing him. So even when a player who would make this team better is mentioned, the reaction is negative. Gladly the 25 or so people that generally are the most negative, rarely represent the majority. They are the same fans who think of Beltran taking that third strike, rather than realizing he is the best CF and FA this team ever had. This is not ideal. I understand that, but before I 'boycott" the stadium, I'd like to see what the final 25 looks like. Than I'd like to see how they play. I've been a fan 30 plus years. I am far from a glass is always half full guy, but I also believe in judging the team based on how they play, not on wether the payroll is 15m dollars higher.

sayhey24
sayhey24

As I said in another post.  This is NY, you need at least some STARS to succeed.  It is really difficult to have sustained success in NY unless you are REALLY mentally strong.  That's why we have had so few great players come up through our system over the years, even when they were the highest touted in minor league baseball (i.e., David West, Billy Beane, Gregg Jefferies, etc.).  Even in '86 we were smart enough to protect Straw and Gooden with players like Hernandez, Carter, Knight and Ojeda who were all stars AND understood the pressure that comes with winning.   If we don't spend, stars won't come, if stars won't come, we won't win consistently.  Our history clearly tells us this.  We had the best farm system for about 10 years running in the 60's and 70's and still never had long term success because the owners would not spend, which led to the Seaver trade.  Another thing is, when you find guys that can play at a high level in this city, you HAVE to keep them while they are in their prime.  These types of guys are hard to replace.  Reyes is a good example, like him or not, when he was healthy he was one of the best we ever had.  No one outside of Wright that has come through our system has put up better overall numbers over the period of time he was here, including Straw.  I have been a fan for 50 years and have experienced every high and low. 2014 will almost certainly be another low, unfortunately.

georgie
georgie

Sandy Alderson is the front man for the owners to keep the fans and the press at bay....but if fans don't show up at the stadium things will change by 2018 at best.

georgie
georgie

The only way to make the team do better in payroll is NOT to go to the stadium.Period. I repeat.........DO NOT GO TO THE STADIUM....anything over 10k in the seats is too much. When Wilpon sees this he will tell Sandy to start investing better players.

georgie
georgie

The mets will not have more than an $90 ml. payroll for 2014

Jim McEnroe
Jim McEnroe

The story for 2014 is. They have a team picked by most to be a fourth or fifth place team, and they're happy where they are. Time for someone to get fired.  .

eric88
eric88

Their payroll is less than HALF of other NY, LA teams, even though they genrate more money than all but one team. Wheres the $$$$$$ promised for years in 2014. This payroll is currently 6 mil under last year!!  They made fools of us for 3 years with that lie.

Victor Triguero
Victor Triguero

I think to add to the frustration is that this site which is supposed to be for Mets fans, they won't even call him on the comments and justifies the comments they make or make excuses for it. Where is Wharton? He usually is very pro fan and he gets it!

eric88
eric88

The lies continue,the story changes almost everyday. Now there is no money for another FA like Drew when 4 days earlier there was. This organization LIES ENDLESSLY to all of us. They will not do what is necessary to win, they rather spend 4.5 million on promotions than payroll. THEY ARE MAKING FOOLS OF US!! The SECOND HIGHEST TICKET PRICES IN MLB ONLY BEHIND THE WORLD CHAMPS! For a terrible team with no Stars except one. The nerve to charge these prices when they are 24th in payroll. Im not going to Citi if the tickets where free. I AM NOT THEIR FOOL.

Chapter 7
Chapter 7

This season is already depressing

rubiconx0
rubiconx0

Sandy is a lying sack of manure, how can anybody in their right mind be happy with this mediocre mess of a team!!

dreamer3kx
dreamer3kx

Wow he said  Mets need to have success on the field in order for payroll to go up pretty much, umm you need to get good players first for that to happen, how many more years will this team suck, when dies it end?

n1ck13
n1ck13

@Marky Mark  This is the best plan.  The point should be to never see Quintanilla play for the Mets again.  Drew has issues with lefthanded pitchers, so does Murphy, signing Drew allows for Tejada to spell both against lefthanders.

nashbo
nashbo

@fhc1224  Totally agree with you.  I wrote something similar, albeit much shorter haha, earlier this week on one of the updates.  Mets fans don't want bad contracts and complain about overpaying, however freak out when ownership doesn't get involved in hefty contracts.   The whole Drew thing for example is beyond me.  Many people on here want him signed, not this guy.  Red Sox fans are hoping he signs elsewhere, doesn't that tell you something?


ifti99
ifti99

@fhc1224  If we all went away, the Mets would have have 10% of their already dwindling fan base left. Did Sandy Alderson write your post for you, or did he just give you the outline? 

gregparm
gregparm

I lost interest five sentces into your post.

Christian Card
Christian Card

No but Drew and Cruz would improve this team. Not one but both. They need to make moves like this. They could sign both and keep the salary under 110

ifti99
ifti99

@lindro88  Your comments are delusional. Four major OFs? Are you serious? The average MLB OF hits around .280. Our guys might wind up hitting .230 or so. Wake up. 

gregparm
gregparm

Did you have a problem with Shea stadium?

Christian Card
Christian Card

This is team is no better now than last year. Lageras is not a major leaguer. He has AAAA written all over him. These are the type of guys Mets fans fall in love with. Compare the Mets roster right now to the other 4 in the division. Where would you rank them right now. Take the names off who would you take? Braves, Phillies, and Nats all have much much better going into 2014.

sayhey24
sayhey24

@lindro88 For me, the question isn't whether they have more talent.  The question is if they have enough talent to win.  For example, of our 4 outfielders, only Granderson would absolutely start on most other NL teams.

georgie
georgie

@eric88  smart man; good for you, most Mets fans are on the low IQ side.

eric88
eric88

@rubiconx0   Another GM would have resigned instead of being the front man for the LYING SOB owners. Sandy, have some pride. What about your manhood.

Victor Triguero
Victor Triguero

@dreamer3kx  I think that sums up this particular era of Mets baseball...if the fans don't show up they won't spend...that pretty much is it

Chapter 7
Chapter 7

Yes, it tells me they have a stud SS that's ready to take over.

fhc1224
fhc1224

@ifti99 @fhc1224 That is a really intelligent response.  You must be an out of work stand up comedian.  Not all have to go away, just you and the ones like you.

gregparm
gregparm

And yes I mistyped sentences

Sylvan Migdal
Sylvan Migdal

@Christian Card  Drew would improve the team. Cruz is an overrated hacker with an iron glove who can't hit outside of Texas.

Sylvan Migdal
Sylvan Migdal

@Christian Card  What exactly makes the Phillies better than us? Marlon Byrd?


The Mets were outscored by 65 runs last year. That sucks.


The Phillies were outscored by 139 runs. They got lucky to win 73 games with that differential, and now they're even older. They're in deep doo-doo.

lindro88
lindro88

Nothing they could have done would have brought them up to the Braves or Nats level. I'm not expecting them to win the division, but I do think they can keep things interesting all summer. The Braves are built around a great group of homegrown players. The Nats had to stink for years and years before they developed a top team. This is reality. Doesn't mean I am not going to see what this team looks like on the field before I decide to stop watching. Losing Harvey was a terrible break. At least they went out and brought in a very capable replacement. Colon may be fat and old, but if you didn't get to see him pitch last season, I think you'll be very pleasantly surprised. One last thing. Tejada was a big part of the problem last April and May. If he is our starting SS, at the very least I expect he'll be in shape, and will resemble the 2012 version more so than the player from last year. He's not an upper echelon guy, but he shouldn't be an error a day guy either.

lindro88
lindro88

I disagree. I think Lagares could start on a bunch of teams. Chris Young is a gamble, but he's talented. Last year no one had a nice thing to say about Byrd. They started Cowgill and Duda on opening day. This year they have 4 legitimate major league outfielders. I'm not saying we are the Braves, but the team starting the season looks a lot better than the group that started last season.

lindro88
lindro88

Agreed. I'm not a Cruz guy. I would like to see Drew signed, and while it doesn't sound as if that's happening, until he's on a team you never know.

sayhey24
sayhey24

I am definitely not labeling him a failure. I like him and hope he will be great. I am just saying that he is not there YET and dont know if he will be. Im hoping though!

stemog
stemog

@sayhey24 @lindro88 He played three-quarters of one season and wasn't even on anyone's radar going into last season. Let him grow a little before labeling him a failure.

lindro88
lindro88

Agrees, but that's the exact same thing that can be said about a bunch of young outfielders around the league. Did you think Carlos Gomez would become a top 10 overall outfielder in baseball? Not implying Lagares is the next Gomez, but he has ability. Young looked like he was going to be a beast. I'd rather have a guy like him trying to regain his form, than guys like Cowgill and Baxter in my outfield rotation.

sayhey24
sayhey24

@lindro88 I personally really like Lagares,but if I am looking at it honestly, he has not yet shown the complete skillset of a starting ML centerfielder.  He has a 10 glove, but everything else maxes at 5.  The fact that he is better than everyone else we have on our team sort of skews our perspective of him.  He will have to prove he can hit before he is even guaranteed a starting spot on our team - which is not a good thing.